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08 Jan 2008, 2:55 pm

totally agree with your criticism of The Secret, Anbuend, if it is anything like the programme of personal development i got sucked into, seduced by, at one point. It took me 8 years to clear my head of the effects. And it was very seductive. It connected with my own tendency to do exactly that with food, and extended it to mental cleansing. It is a scary fashion in society, these programmes which promise liberation/power if do the right things. Thank you for excellent critique.

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08 Jan 2008, 3:25 pm

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Right after I say i am eating according to Ayurveda, you design a poll that doesnt' include it as an option!! I am insulted!! ! LOL, guess I have live with that - put me in 'other' ! !

Also, isn't rabbinical kosher a type of biblical kosher?? I just read the year of living biblically, and the rabbinical tradition considers themselves to be the correct way of interpreting and implementing the Bible.


They add a lot to the Bible and the interpretations range with the Rabbi. Why add to Leviticus 11 and make it more difficult?



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08 Jan 2008, 3:26 pm

Ayurveda, What is it?



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08 Jan 2008, 3:32 pm

Ayurveda is from India - it means science of life. Just switching to unrefined sesame oil after reading about it in ayurveda brought my blood pressure from 140 to 120. There are various branches of Ayurveda that deal with diet, herbs, and other ways to maintain health and/or treat disease.



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08 Jan 2008, 3:39 pm

Ah, the -veda suffix did sound Indian.

I tend to think along lines of what the original design would have been, like in Genesis 1:29-31 Although I can't be a vegan in my parents' house, that is what I want to be later on.



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08 Jan 2008, 3:56 pm

Speaking of the original design, there is a diet called the paleolithic diet - which attempts to figure out what humans ate before the agricultural revolution (where we started to eat mostly wheat and meat).



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08 Jan 2008, 4:03 pm

How can you agree with someone about his view on something you haven't even seen?

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How about watching the movie and then formulating an opinion? Not all *programmes* are alike, you know. BTW I seem to remember you had some difficulty with the work of Byron Katie as well, thinking it was just like that *programme* you were once *suckered into*.


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totally agree with your criticism of The Secret, Anbuend, if it is anything like the programme of personal development i got sucked into, seduced by, at one point. It took me 8 years to clear my head of the effects. And it was very seductive. It connected with my own tendency to do exactly that with food, and extended it to mental cleansing. It is a scary fashion in society, these programmes which promise liberation/power if do the right things. Thank you for excellent critique.

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08 Jan 2008, 4:05 pm

monty wrote:
Ayurveda is from India - it means science of life. Just switching to unrefined sesame oil after reading about it in ayurveda brought my blood pressure from 140 to 120. There are various branches of Ayurveda that deal with diet, herbs, and other ways to maintain health and/or treat disease.


That's great monty. There's an old Ayurvedic remedy for insomnia btw that works like a charm. Sesame oil massaged into the soles of the feet. Z z z z z z z z in no time.


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08 Jan 2008, 4:06 pm

Let's hop in the Delorean man!

From Polynesian legends, Aborigine dreamtime, Aztec mythology, Greek mythology, preConfusian legends, and the Bible I would say we originally ate fruits and vegetables. Immediately after Adam and Eve, Adam and Chavah, or whatever names for them, left the garden they started farming and eating "plants of the field" 1656 years later men began to eat meat.



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08 Jan 2008, 4:09 pm

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So when will the nutritional secrets be revealed?? Repeating statements like "Prejudice and BS = keeping you in the dark" does improve anyone's nutrition.

I have been following an ayurvedic system for eating - it has been beneficial for me.


I took them down in an act of protest. But I will repost now that someone is asking for them. http://www.newstarget.com/021970.html


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08 Jan 2008, 4:11 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Let's hop in the Delorean man!

From Polynesian legends, Aborigine dreamtime, Aztec mythology, Greek mythology, preConfusian legends, and the Bible I would say we originally ate fruits and vegetables. Immediately after Adam and Eve, Adam and Chavah, or whatever names for them, left the garden they started farming and eating "plants of the field" 1656 years later men began to eat meat.


Is that 1656 after the advent of the Flood?


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08 Jan 2008, 4:13 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Ah, the -veda suffix did sound Indian.

I tend to think along lines of what the original design would have been, like in Genesis 1:29-31 Although I can't be a vegan in my parents' house, that is what I want to be later on.


The word Veda closely resembles Yeda (the Hebrew for Knowledge) - and this isn't so far-fetched after all the sons of Abraham by Keturah settled in the region and were knowledgable in the arts of healing.


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08 Jan 2008, 4:17 pm

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Please pick an option:
  1. Vegetarian
    1. Vegan
    2. Lacto
    3. Lacto-Ovo
    4. Ovo
    5. Other
  2. Carnivore
    1. Atkins
    2. Other
  3. Omnivore
    1. everything
    2. Rabbinical Kosher
    3. Biblical Kosher
    4. Other


I follow 3c right now, but when I can support myself I plan to be 1a.


I'm vegan/vegetarian rabinnical kosher - lol. I don't know why these are even mutually exclusive. But anyway - care to share why you cant be vegan now?


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08 Jan 2008, 4:19 pm

The atkins diet doesn't make you a carnivore...


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08 Jan 2008, 4:20 pm

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Let's hop in the Delorean man!

From Polynesian legends, Aborigine dreamtime, Aztec mythology, Greek mythology, preConfusian legends, and the Bible I would say we originally ate fruits and vegetables. Immediately after Adam and Eve, Adam and Chavah, or whatever names for them, left the garden they started farming and eating "plants of the field" 1656 years later men began to eat meat.


Is that 1656 after the advent of the Flood?


Yep and around the world there are flood legends resembling, however corrupted, that of the Biblical account. Not all cultures do, but enough do and without missionary interference.



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08 Jan 2008, 4:25 pm

monty wrote:
Right after I say i am eating according to Ayurveda, you design a poll that doesnt' include it as an option!! I am insulted!! ! LOL, guess I have live with that - put me in 'other' ! !

Also, isn't rabbinical kosher a type of biblical kosher?? I just read the year of living biblically, and the rabbinical tradition considers themselves to be the correct way of interpreting and implementing the Bible.


Kashrut levels are very different - and run the gamut in their levels of strictness. There are multiple regulating ordinances run by various Kashrut authorities who give their stamp of approval (or not) based on their inspections of the processing, cleanliness and other adherences. Very, very detailed and complicated. To eat something kosher, it's probably best that it be something with the O U or K symbols on it. Kosher meat and fish is another thing in entirety - certain foods are forbiidden - and in eating in restaurants - it's not enough that someone call's their establishment *kosher* - there needs to be an Orthodox supervisor there on the premises making sure that dishes (milk/meat) aren't mixed, cleanliness is observed etc. etc. etc.

There's some good info here - http://www.jewfaq.org/kashrut.htm


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