how many think not being PC is racist/sexist?
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does America really have a "black appreciation month"
We have nothing like that here, but then again we hardly have anyone not from British/European ancestry.
Not black appreciation, but black history.
When I was in High School, someone I knew was getting people to sign a petition making it "American History Month" or just "History Month." (even a couple blacks signed it)
Guess what happened?
That's right, a black guy got pissed off and tore it to pieces.
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I don't understand. How can black history be separate from American history
Some of our history isn't "nice" (like massacres of Chinese at the goldfields and genocide of Tasmanian aboriginals). But that's not non-anglo history, its just history.
Its not PC to say, but some people here are inventing aboriginal culture to make the reality (stone-age nomads) look better. You wouldn't need a whole month to fit in 20,000 years of aboriginal history, let alone 200 years.
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Strewth!
I see being politically correct as a way to dumb people's thoughts down so that other people don't get 'offended'. I mean, 'personholecover'? 'womyn'? shto v hui! Let's be realistic in speech. If it offends someone that you're speaking the truth, then there's a problem. I admit I'm hard-of-hearing, fairly lazy and obsessed, not 'hearing-impaired, motivationally absent and recurrently-minded'! And PTSD? Gimme a break; it's shell shock. Nothing different except the name.
Watered-down language produces watered-down brains and weak-willed people. -_-
I think there's a difference between being politically incorrect and being out right racist. For example, calling someone black compared to calling them a coon. Just like anything else, PC often goes to an extreme.
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MLK Jr was a great man, a great HUMAN BEING, who happened to be black, and did many great things for his people, but he fought for equality, not for skin color to become a pass over the laws by hanging onto the past, not to condemn innocent white men for the actions of other white men, he preached equality. Meaning you weren't treated better for being white, you weren't treated better for being black, you weren't treated better for being any other color. Color shouldn't be a factor. Gender should only be a factor in dating matters.
Well said.
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does America really have a "black appreciation month"
We have nothing like that here, but then again we hardly have anyone not from British/European ancestry.
Not black appreciation, but black history.
When I was in High School, someone I knew was getting people to sign a petition making it "American History Month" or just "History Month." (even a couple blacks signed it)
Guess what happened?
That's right, a black guy got pissed off and tore it to pieces.
I'm not condoning tearing somebody else's stuff to pieces, but the original petition was patently absurd. "White" (usually male) American history is discussed about all the time. I never understood why people get uppity about having a single month (the shortest in the year, even) devoted to black history. If our educational system were truly egalitarian, it wouldn't be necessary.
So you think American history only involves blacks and whites? There are more than two races in America...
No, I don't think that. I think more of an effort should be made to incorporate Latino/Asian/etc. history as well. I was merely responding to the specific topic of Black History Month.
Have you ever actually heard anyone say this, or is that just a straw man?
It was me being sarcastic immitating pc freaks. That is how you come off.
I'm not the most PC person, but I have zero tolerance for racism, sexism or hatred of any kind. Just because I don't like our immigration policy, people think that's bigotry. Wrong. All it means its that I don't like our immigration policy and it needs reform.
This is Black History Month. There are some cool programs on Black History this month on TV. One was on tonight about this Black principal who taught White students in the 1960s to be Colorblind. They actually lived their lives the way they were taught and ended up being really neat people. My wife and I watched it together and really liked the program. I look forward to watching these programs when my kids are older and able to appreciate them more.
And, lots going on in some of the communities for Black History...an easy drive. My wife and I try to do some of these things every year. We want our children to respect and understand this history. They've made contributions and I want my kids to grow up to understand that. We also try to celebrate other ethnic months, too. Culture is important to us and them getting along with others is as well. That's why we travel a lot, to show them different people and places.
The libraries have stuff going on. My wife got a book on M.L. King that was age-appropriate for the kids. It was good for them to learn about King. I'm White, Conservative, not considered the most PC dude, but this is how I raise my kids. It doesn't bother me that one month is set aside exclusively to honor contributions made by people. Doesn't mean the issues are ignored the rest of the year. I think what we experience during this month carries over to the rest of the year and life in general.
How can American history be separated from world history? How can a state like California or Illinois teach state history apart from the history of the country? How can the Europeans teach European history?
Very easily. It is called the thematic approach to history. You pick a topic to focus on.
The proper, non-PC way of going about it is getting rid of all these stupid identity-politics based "appreciation" things with a single one for diversity in general.
does America really have a "black appreciation month"
We have nothing like that here, but then again we hardly have anyone not from British/European ancestry.
Not black appreciation, but black history.
When I was in High School, someone I knew was getting people to sign a petition making it "American History Month" or just "History Month." (even a couple blacks signed it)
Guess what happened?
That's right, a black guy got pissed off and tore it to pieces.
I'm not condoning tearing somebody else's stuff to pieces, but the original petition was patently absurd. "White" (usually male) American history is discussed about all the time. I never understood why people get uppity about having a single month (the shortest in the year, even) devoted to black history. If our educational system were truly egalitarian, it wouldn't be necessary.
I have no problem with more coverage of the history of African-Americans, but, to quote Arthur Schlesinger Jr., it should be HISTORY, not ideologically-motivated rubbish.
http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm
378 Race and Crime
on the left side is links to prior columns, what the media doesn't report is all the countless attacks on white people.
Knoxville Horror
that link is at the bottom of the 378 Race & Crime column
It's easy to be PC when somebody lives in upper middle class neighborhoods far away from the problems they are part of by exploiting the working class to fund their lavish lifestlye and than tell somebody they should be tolerant of being victims of crime.
The PC bunch can pretend they aren't racist, until a white woman is crapping her pants because nobody is around but a black man and a white guy gets nervous as he finds himself encountering a black man or a group of blacks and nobody is around.
I would love to see the PC bunch be cashiers at a C-store and than still claim they aren't the least bit concerned at 2am when a black man comes into the store.
Even though I despise democrap politicians, I hope Obama wins the election for the overall good of the country to hopefully change the under dog feeling minorities have. It's not a feeling, it's a fact and this country needs to really move beyond it's past.
I'm not against them teaching black history month. In fact, I think they should teach hispanic history, asian history, and for all other races.
What I do have a problem with is when the carriculum holds onto the victim card and preaches victimology to them. I agree it was horrible what they had to go through, and nobody should EVER have to go through that. But it is also important to move on these days.
Some discrimination still happens against blacks, but they support it by buying into BET. Instead of attacking the whites who are actually doing them bad, the popular "progressive" black seperatists spread the assumption that ALL white people are racist and against them. This could not be any further from the truth. But this is used to justify reverse racism, which I'd rather just call racism because racism is racism.
What I do have a problem with is when the carriculum holds onto the victim card and preaches victimology to them. I agree it was horrible what they had to go through, and nobody should EVER have to go through that. But it is also important to move on these days.
History is not about moving on - it is about looking back. It is impossible to teach about the history of slavery, the holocaust, or certain other events without recognizing major victimization.
