11 Mar 2008, 5:23 pm
One example of "controversial" stupidity is that of "isms". For instance, sexism/misogyny leads to extraordinary stupidities; men will be remarkably "stupid" about where the tea towel is in the kitchen whereas where a thingummijig is in the car would not be a problem. 
Chosen stupidity, or convenient stupidity, or politically "necessary" stupidity.
How much is that kind of stupidity at the back of people's minds when laying into
completely "blameless"/"innocent"/involuntary stupidity?
How much in fact is that sort of stupidity in so many people responsible for irrational levels of rage/hostility in the face of unwilled stupidity. It seems simply unbelievable that someone would be stupid "by accident", or if they have nothing to gain by it! 
12 Mar 2008, 11:23 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Why is it perfectly acceptable to make fun of stupid people, but wrong to make fun of ret*d people? Isn't that just two words which, however accurately or not, describe the same mental condition? I mean, I understand making fun of deliberately stupid behaviour or words -- as in, the person is not trying their best, and is therefore producing output inferior to what they could. But why would anyone make fun of someone's actual disability, by assessing them as "stupid", and then proceeding to mock them for the way they are. Isn't that just as bad as making fun of a ret*d person? You're doing the same thing, only without the labels -- so you get away with it easier. That doesn't make it any more right, though.
Society is so hypocritical. If someone is behaving in an odd or seemingly incorrect way, you can make fun of them AS LONG AS they don't have a documented condition that is said to cause or influence them to behave that way.
Um... Why don't we not make fun of ANYONE'S disability, whether it's documented or not?
Again, it makes sense to chide someone for doing much less than their best, but it makes no sense to chide someone for doing less than someone else's best. Yet, that's what we do when we make fun of stupid people. Whoever does so on a regular basis should be willing for someone smarter than they are to come along and make fun of their relative stupidity. I guess this is an application of "Judge not, lest ye be judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again" (Matt 7:1-2). And indeed, also, "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." (Matt 7:12)
Society is so hypocritical. If someone is behaving in an odd or seemingly incorrect way, you can make fun of them AS LONG AS they don't have a documented condition that is said to cause or influence them to behave that way.
Um... Why don't we not make fun of ANYONE'S disability, whether it's documented or not?
Again, it makes sense to chide someone for doing much less than their best, but it makes no sense to chide someone for doing less than someone else's best. Yet, that's what we do when we make fun of stupid people. Whoever does so on a regular basis should be willing for someone smarter than they are to come along and make fun of their relative stupidity. I guess this is an application of "Judge not, lest ye be judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again" (Matt 7:1-2). And indeed, also, "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." (Matt 7:12)
I used to think about that before a lot, when I was at school, and with people in general, wondering about people judging and making fun of others when they would be the same or worse if they were in the same situation in most cases, it is something I never understood and never will. I never made fun of somebody for things other people consider stupid, like falling or droping things by accident, or even saying the wrong thing, I never did and I still don't understand what is so bad about making a mistake when there is no actual damage from it, only to make fun of a person, and I have found many people to be like that, it doesn't make sense.
Talking about stupidity, that is actually very stupid thing to do, ending up hurting others by doing that.
12 Mar 2008, 11:27 pm
13 Mar 2008, 3:43 am
Bunch of ret*ds, don’t you get, call yourselves aspies. Let me explain. NT nature is a social competitive one where they have to make their competitors small by mocking them, no surprise that sometime they call them stupid. They don’t have to compete with real ret*ds
Don't let me hear more of you jiba jaba or you will meet my friend pain.
14 Mar 2008, 11:05 am
16 Mar 2008, 7:48 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Why is it perfectly acceptable to make fun of stupid people, but wrong to make fun of ret*d people? Isn't that just two words which, however accurately or not, describe the same mental condition? I mean, I understand making fun of deliberately stupid behaviour or words -- as in, the person is not trying their best, and is therefore producing output inferior to what they could. But why would anyone make fun of someone's actual disability, by assessing them as "stupid", and then proceeding to mock them for the way they are. Isn't that just as bad as making fun of a ret*d person? You're doing the same thing, only without the labels -- so you get away with it easier. That doesn't make it any more right, though.
Society is so hypocritical. If someone is behaving in an odd or seemingly incorrect way, you can make fun of them AS LONG AS they don't have a documented condition that is said to cause or influence them to behave that way.
Um... Why don't we not make fun of ANYONE'S disability, whether it's documented or not?
Again, it makes sense to chide someone for doing much less than their best, but it makes no sense to chide someone for doing less than someone else's best. Yet, that's what we do when we make fun of stupid people. Whoever does so on a regular basis should be willing for someone smarter than they are to come along and make fun of their relative stupidity. I guess this is an application of "Judge not, lest ye be judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again" (Matt 7:1-2). And indeed, also, "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." (Matt 7:12)
Society is so hypocritical. If someone is behaving in an odd or seemingly incorrect way, you can make fun of them AS LONG AS they don't have a documented condition that is said to cause or influence them to behave that way.
Um... Why don't we not make fun of ANYONE'S disability, whether it's documented or not?
Again, it makes sense to chide someone for doing much less than their best, but it makes no sense to chide someone for doing less than someone else's best. Yet, that's what we do when we make fun of stupid people. Whoever does so on a regular basis should be willing for someone smarter than they are to come along and make fun of their relative stupidity. I guess this is an application of "Judge not, lest ye be judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again" (Matt 7:1-2). And indeed, also, "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." (Matt 7:12)
I think that most stupid people would fall into the NT category, they seem to be running the world, and look at the mess its in.
17 Mar 2008, 1:58 am
