04 Apr 2008, 5:28 pm
This question has always stunted me. Just thought I'd post pics of the early stages of the human fetus to give you an idea. I personally think late term abortion is just as bad as murdering a baby because their nerves are already developed.
04 Apr 2008, 5:34 pm
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05 Apr 2008, 12:21 pm
...Just let people have abortions 
I for one would never want to inflict myself upon a child as a parent.
08 Apr 2008, 2:06 pm
BesideYouInTime wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
And yet, you so easily fathom other countries attempting to dictate American policy.
America does far more of that by wielding the carrot and the stick to other countries to make policies harmonious with our own.
That doesn't sound particularly sinister to me. Does it to you? Creating incentives toward harmony? What's the problem with that?
08 Apr 2008, 2:11 pm
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
I didn't know you view disabled people as less than human, AG.
I wasn't aware that I viewed humans as human in the first place.
Well, I can't argue with that.
08 Apr 2008, 2:13 pm
Scribbler wrote:
...Just let people have abortions
I for one would never want to inflict myself upon a child as a parent.
I for one would never want to inflict myself upon a child as a parent.
Well, you might not be that bad as a parent. So why not wait until your baby grows up to a level that you can ask him the question of whether he enjoys living or would rather be dead, and if the latter, you can kill him via assisted suicide. Just think of it as an ultra-late-term abortion.
08 Apr 2008, 3:39 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Naturally, this is a thread about abortion. 
But I thought I'd back us into it, this time.
But I thought I'd back us into it, this time.
OK, but no discussion of abortion is complete without the discussion of prevention, which, if effective, would massively reduce the number of abortions performed (obviously).
So, Ragtime, how do you feel about family planning, including abstinence and/or contraception?
08 Apr 2008, 5:05 pm
08 Apr 2008, 6:48 pm
Ragtime wrote:
The answer is that fetuses are inconvenient. They are often terribly inconvenient.
And that is why the law allows us to kill them, by first classifying them as not human, to make us feel better about it.
Hitler made himself and the Germans feel better about killing non-"Aryans" by called them sub-human, and racists of all kinds use that same hate-justifying argument to this day. It's obviously untrue, but it makes them sound less insane.
And that is why the law allows us to kill them, by first classifying them as not human, to make us feel better about it.
Hitler made himself and the Germans feel better about killing non-"Aryans" by called them sub-human, and racists of all kinds use that same hate-justifying argument to this day. It's obviously untrue, but it makes them sound less insane.
I have to say I agree with you about the double standard, but why drag Hitler into this? I hate it when people invoke the Holocaust in political debates to make a point; It feels exploitative. Stop!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law
