What ethical principle should organize society?

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What ethical principle should organize society?

Utilitarian	16%	[ 5 ]
Egalitarian	6%	[ 2 ]
Libertarian	39%	[ 12 ]
Moralistic	6%	[ 2 ]
Progress-oriented	16%	[ 5 ]
Consensual/Pacifistic	10%	[ 3 ]
Other (Please explain answer)	6%	[ 2 ]

Total votes : 31

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07 Jul 2011, 12:52 am

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07 Jul 2011, 1:04 am

Militaristic and technological progress oriented, with a focus upon the expansion into and conquest of space. Space is going to be the only truly free market and free society where people will live by their choices, but having an earthly nation get off its butt and actually do something other than pay a bunch of bureaucrats to watch the readouts of individual spacecraft (imagine how the airline industry would die completely if this were done to it), will probably require an all consuming fixation upon space rather than a treatment of it as merely "stunts" or "diplomatic gestures".

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07 Jul 2011, 1:15 am

I voted moralistic, but I'd want that mixed with being progress-oriented and enough libertarianism to avoid getting tied up in red tape.

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07 Jul 2011, 1:20 am

i think im the only moralist so far in the polling - I have libertarian tendencies but it is in some ways amoral(and because of that immoral).

I chose moralist because it doesn't exclude any of the other options, you just need a moral pacifism, moral egalitarianism, moral progress, etc as defined by the Torah. So my lens is the Torah, the filter by which I run those other values through to help aide in making them more moral, and wisdom(knowing life), experience, and common sense.

An ideal society with a prioritized collection of ethics would hold ones from judaism and christianity, as well as liberty(with accountability to God), From Many - One, and In God We Trust, or in other words, America.

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07 Jul 2011, 1:48 am

what morals?

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07 Jul 2011, 7:20 am

From that list, a mixture of utilitarianism, libertarianism and consensual/pacifistic. I'm pretty much a utilitarian, but for me there two 'fundamental goods' - happiness and freedom.

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07 Jul 2011, 7:49 am

Another resurrection, and not unworthy.

I guess writing in "we don' need no stinking society" would be gauche.

The moralistic option is tres tempting, but the quis custodiet ipsos custodes principle and my severe doubt.

That leaves me torn between the libertarian and the consensual/pacifistic - torn because humanity is unlikely to leave either alone. The Organizers and Powervolk, I long ago concluded, would tear either to shreds.

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07 Jul 2011, 9:16 am

I chose egalitarian, but it was a hard choice. The problem is that many of these choices are mutually exclusive. So I'm also a very strong supporter of utilitarianism and pacifism.

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07 Jul 2011, 9:23 am

my main issue is that i dont think we can ever attain an ideal society as humans and the way we think will continue to change based on their surroundings so new changes will have to be made to compensate.

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07 Jul 2011, 10:52 am

Consensual/Pacifistic

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07 Jul 2011, 11:38 am

Don't do anything to another that you would not wan't done to you.

Our version of the human species has been around, perhaps, for a quarter million years and the best we have come up with is the Golden Rule.

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07 Jul 2011, 1:31 pm

EvilKimEvil wrote:

I voted for Libertarian because I would like freedom to be the top priority of any society in which I participate. I think that laws should exist to protect freedom. For example, acts of violence obviously infringe on a person's freedom so they should be illegal. This is just a general principle, and hence it is subject to the great variety of dilemmas and "gray areas" that complicate any ideology.

As Ragtime pointed out, this poll is not realistic. I doubt that a society could really be organized around any one of the options. However, a society might be able to prioritize one or more of the options over the others in a very general sense. So it is worth thinking about and discussing even though it is primarily a fantasy.

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07 Jul 2011, 2:50 pm

ruveyn wrote:

As indicated, unfortunately neither formulation of the regula aurea is satisfactory [the fact we have nothing better is just too typical].

If my brother treats me as he wants to be treated - if I avoid doing things to him that would offend me - I come up against the fact that he hates what I like and likes what I hate.

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07 Jul 2011, 3:03 pm

Philologos wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

If people could be, would be fair and just to each other, then almost any form of economic system would work.

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