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Orwell wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
misotheistic-evolutionary framework.
Will you stop with this nonsense? Not all evolutionists are atheists! MOST Christians are evolutionists! Its only a handful of fringe lunatics like yourself that believe evolution is incompatible with religion.
There is far, far, FAR more evidence for God than there is for evolution. Therefore, I definitely believe in God, but evolution is still very shaky at best.
If evolution is an elective, and it's not required for the successful pursuit of biological study, THEN WHY ALL THE PRESSURE TO UNEQUIVOCALLY TEACH EVOLUTION IN THE SCHOOLS, ALLOWING NO QUESTIONING OF IT WHATSOEVER, AND OUTLAWING ID?
If it's so unimportant to the pursuit of hard science, why is it DEMANDED that the teacher allow room for no other possibility than evolution? It hasn't been proven, so it's basically a fairytale that's drilled into students' heads as fact, by biased leaders who personally dislike God.
Evolution is like a Greek Mythology class where you're told that the mythology is actually true, that Apollo and Athena are real, etc.
If you believe in evolution, for which there is no conclusive evidence, then you should easily believe in God, for whom there is evidence ALL AROUND YOU!
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10 May 2008, 10:27 am
Gromit wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
It hasn't been proven
You keep saying that, but when asked to back that up
Uh, how can one back up proof of a negative? I can't show you non-proof.
Gromit wrote:
What would you accept as evidence for evolution? Or even proof? Is there anything that could persuade you?
There is nothing that could persuade me, it is safe to say. I mean, I've heard all the best arguments for years and years -- and they're utter CRAP!
10 May 2008, 10:34 am
10 May 2008, 10:37 am
Ragtime wrote:
Orwell wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
misotheistic-evolutionary framework.
Will you stop with this nonsense? Not all evolutionists are atheists! MOST Christians are evolutionists! Its only a handful of fringe lunatics like yourself that believe evolution is incompatible with religion.
There is far, far, FAR more evidence for God than there is for evolution. Therefore, I definitely believe in God, but evolution is still very shaky at best.
There's a ton of evidence for evolution.
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If evolution is an elective, and it's not required for the successful pursuit of biological study, THEN WHY ALL THE PRESSURE TO UNEQUIVOCALLY TEACH EVOLUTION IN THE SCHOOLS, ALLOWING NO QUESTIONING OF IT WHATSOEVER, AND OUTLAWING ID?
1. Because it IS required for the successful pursuit of biological study, as has already been explained in this thread.
2. You can question anything, as long as you bring relevant facts to the table. Creationists don't.
3. ID is not taught because it is a load of bull with no scientific basis, and only very shaky theological basis.
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If it's so unimportant to the pursuit of hard science, why is it DEMANDED that the teacher allow room for no other possibility than evolution? It hasn't been proven, so it's basically a fairytale that's drilled into students' heads as fact, by biased leaders who personally dislike God.
Evolution is like a Greek Mythology class where you're told that the mythology is actually true, that Apollo and Athena are real, etc.
Evolution is like a Greek Mythology class where you're told that the mythology is actually true, that Apollo and Athena are real, etc.
1. Why is it demanded that the teacher allow room for no other possibility than Newtonian mechanics? Why not also teach Aristotelian physics?
2. Personally hate God? You are an idiot and a bigot. MOST CHRISTIANS ACCEPT EVOLUTION YOU DOLT!! My biology teacher is Christian! So am I!
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10 May 2008, 10:41 am
Ragtime wrote:
Gromit wrote:
What would you accept as evidence for evolution? Or even proof? Is there anything that could persuade you?
There is nothing that could persuade me, it is safe to say. I mean, I've heard all the best arguments for years and years -- and they're utter CRAP!
You admit at least that you will not be bound to reality by saying that nothing could persuade you to change your views. Even Luther, while starting the Reformation, allowed for the possibility of changing his views if he were shown to be wrong. And you evidently haven't heard very many arguments for evolution, if you believe they are all crap. I've heard all the arguments for Creationism, and those are among the most poorly-constructed arguments I've ever seen in my life. Seriously, it's about as easy to construct a good argument for geocentrism as for creationism.
10 May 2008, 10:51 am
Ragtime wrote:
Gromit wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
It hasn't been proven
You keep saying that, but when asked to back that up
Uh, how can one back up proof of a negative? I can't show you non-proof.
Isn't that normally the argument employed by atheists? And even that statement betrays a serious misunderstanding of the issue. Evolution is a scientific concept. If you can find evidence that contradicts evolution, or propose an alternate theory that does a better job of explaining the data, then you could refute evolution. However, there is not currently any evidence available that contradicts the basic ideas of evolution, and no alternate theory does a more effective job of explaining the evidence we do have.
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10 May 2008, 10:58 am
Ragtime wrote:
Orwell wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
misotheistic-evolutionary framework.
Will you stop with this nonsense? Not all evolutionists are atheists! MOST Christians are evolutionists! Its only a handful of fringe lunatics like yourself that believe evolution is incompatible with religion.
There is far, far, FAR more evidence for God than there is for evolution. Therefore, I definitely believe in God, but evolution is still very shaky at best.
If evolution is an elective, and it's not required for the successful pursuit of biological study, THEN WHY ALL THE PRESSURE TO UNEQUIVOCALLY TEACH EVOLUTION IN THE SCHOOLS, ALLOWING NO QUESTIONING OF IT WHATSOEVER, AND OUTLAWING ID?
If it's so unimportant to the pursuit of hard science, why is it DEMANDED that the teacher allow room for no other possibility than evolution? It hasn't been proven, so it's basically a fairytale that's drilled into students' heads as fact, by biased leaders who personally dislike God.
Evolution is like a Greek Mythology class where you're told that the mythology is actually true, that Apollo and Athena are real, etc.
If you believe in evolution, for which there is no conclusive evidence, then you should easily believe in God, for whom there is evidence ALL AROUND YOU!
WHY HAVE ALL THESE TYPES OF RELIGIONS IF ALL YOU NEED IS BELIEF IN GOD?
SHOW ME THIS INCONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE>>> MAYBE I SPLAIN IT BETTER TO YOU
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