Childhood traumas caused by religion

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most everyone's unhealthy ideas about sex are due to religious trauma.

While I was raised Lutheran I have recently begun to simply define myself as "Christian" without any denomination attached. In the rare occasion I go to church, I often find myself quietly disagreeing with the pastor. The largest was during the children's sermon one day when he said that God will protect you from harm if you believe. I disagree with this statement. God does not protect his followers physical form, if he did that would defeat the purpose of this life (which is to teach us pain and evil so we can truly experience good). I also disagree with the selection committee's recommendation of him as our pastor in the first place,since one member of the selection committee was extremely homophobic and blocked any candidate who even had a neutral opinion of homosexuality.

The list goes on and on. The bottom line is that I take the words of Jesus seriously but consider the old testament to be little more then a historical account of Israel's understanding of God, and much of the post-gospel new testament be a theological discussion where my personal opinion has just as much weight.

I dislike the idea of trying to scare people into living a righteous life. People should live a righteous life because that's simply what being a Christian is all about, not for fear of the fires of Hell. In the end many people who claim to be Christian really are not, for I know no true Christian who would even consider condemning another human being.

the title to this topic is exactly what happend to me. nobody should be allowed in church whos under 18, what i wanna know is how "god" talks to people? and HOW children are supose to understand this/

I'd say childhood sexual abuse accounts for more dysfunction than religious trauma. Sexual abuse occurs within a religious context, not the other way around.

no, i was talking more the puritan view of sex being a bad thing outside the church approved format of marriage. the very closeted attitudes towards sexuality and sex in general. it's all due to christian influence on the west.

only christianity could tramatize people to where a few million people s**t a brick because janet jackson showed part of her breast on national television.

it's unhealthy to have such a negative view towards sex.

Extreme views are unhealthy, I agree. And puritanical attitudes towards sex are blunt, clunky and stone-aged. They run contrary to human nature, hence all the pain & suffering associated with Victorian attitudes in the 21st century.

But not every Christian is puritanical in that sense. And there's certainly nothing wrong with having rules to govern sexual behaviour. In fact, these rules are essential to living as human beings and not animals.

what's the difference? we're glorified, mammalian bees.

No, I think we're much more that that. What is a mammalian bee, btw?

we operate under similar social structures to bees and we're mammals.


by the way, how can you disagree if you don't even know what i mean? shouldn't the second part of your post come first?

I just didn't know what you meant by juxtaposing "mammalian" and "bee." Mammals are not at all like insects.

I think that I get what you mean by the bees and social structure, but I have to disagree; if you're going to pick a colonial insect, at least go with ants for the slightly more diverse structure.

But, really, we aren't so much like insects even socially; maybe some cultures are at some times, like England during the empire period, but other human structures are quite different. Tribalism has more akin to wolf pack structure than it does to hives of any sort.

I tell people this all the time and I guess I will be telling people till I sleep six feet under. Anyways religion does not cause problem well christianity at least its the weakness of people's hearts. When a human heart becomes weak it starts to put others down so it can feel good. People who judge others with hatred in their hearts, or put others down to feel good have weak hearts that is a fact.

All childhood trauma comes from religion? All? No, I still disagree.

Wow, you are truly a monumentally ignorant waste of DNA to claim that--have you REALLY forgotten Islam????

Why do people pretend we are the only primates in existence? If you want to look at species whose social structures resemble our own, look to the social apes or even the social monkeys.

an insult and a non-sequitur...try making sense next time.