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28 Aug 2008, 2:51 pm

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28 Aug 2008, 3:05 pm

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DMT? never done it can't say. Since i have done shamanic doses of lsd and shrooms i can say authoritatively that is a doorway to theta.

This thread is shit

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28 Aug 2008, 3:17 pm

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This thread is shit

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28 Aug 2008, 3:23 pm

chever wrote:

prometheuspann wrote:

DMT? never done it can't say. Since i have done shamanic doses of lsd and shrooms i can say authoritatively that is a doorway to theta.

This thread is shit

Indeed.

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28 Aug 2008, 4:17 pm

Actually, it has some purpose.

I had this idea, awhile ago, after reading an excerpt from The Doors of Perception, of going to a country where mild psychedelia are legal and trying something like peyote or DMT just once, only to see what it would really be like.

I am now firmly opposed to this idea.

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28 Aug 2008, 4:45 pm

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DMT is not a mild psychedelic.

you left a hole in your post. you thought about and now you're against it. what happened in the middle?

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28 Aug 2008, 5:01 pm

This is the most interesting thread I've read on WP. I don't meet many people who like this sort of thing so I'm really thankful for finding some of your tips on entering the shamanic state.

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28 Aug 2008, 6:18 pm

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you left a hole in your post. you thought about and now you're against it. what happened in the middle?

"And then I realized from this thread that psychedelic drugs are some hardcore bullshit, will turn me into a blithering hypergraphic lunatic who can't post anything that makes sense, and I should never use them ever."

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28 Aug 2008, 6:36 pm

chever wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

you left a hole in your post. you thought about and now you're against it. what happened in the middle?

that's lovely. i hope you live a long sober life.

it's funny because if you actually bothered to read what he posts, he said he tried it before and stopped and discourages people from doing them and frowns upon them.

but it's okay, you're only interested in showing that you're a douchebag. so: douche on, good sir!

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28 Aug 2008, 6:38 pm

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What's your take on the binaural entrainment CDs that claim to lead the brain to a particular frequency?

There are programs like SBaGen, which create binaural beats for free as well as communities around them. IMHO this is a better idea.

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28 Aug 2008, 6:41 pm

chever wrote:

I am now firmly opposed to this idea.

now is a bad descriptor considering your demeanor belies that you were always opposed to the idea.

it's also interesting in that you defend christianity tooth and nail but you attack this guy as much as many of the other atheists attack christians on the board.

sounds like you're just lying about most everything.

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28 Aug 2008, 7:40 pm

skafather84 wrote:

that's lovely. i hope you live a long sober life.

That's one of my mission parameters.

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it's funny because if you actually bothered to read what he posts, he said he tried it before and stopped and discourages people from doing them and frowns upon them.

Apparently, the damage has been done.

skafather84 wrote:

but it's okay, you're only interested in showing that you're a douchebag. so: douche on, good sir!

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skafather84 wrote:

chever wrote:

I am now firmly opposed to this idea.

now is a bad descriptor considering your demeanor belies that you were always opposed to the idea.

I was once slightly inclined towards taking something like, idk, psilocybin once, in the Netherlands or something, based on the writings of Aldous Huxley, but now I'm not going to do that.

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it's also interesting in that you defend christianity tooth and nail but you attack this guy as much as many of the other atheists attack christians on the board.

In which post did I defend Christianity

Why are my views on Christianity relevant to my views on posting rambling, incoherent nonsense

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sounds like you're just lying about most everything.

You got me. I'm really a repo man named Cletus.

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29 Aug 2008, 5:02 am

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This is the most interesting thread I've read on WP. I don't meet many people who like this sort of thing so I'm really thankful for finding some of your tips on entering the shamanic state.

Thanks. I do my best.

As i see (rather disapointingly) that theres no questions being asked, I guess i'll just be on my then.

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29 Aug 2008, 5:05 am

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will turn me into a blithering hypergraphic lunatic who can't post anything that makes sense, and I should never use them ever."
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okay. I'm sorry, i just can't resist.

You don't need hallucinogenics to turn you into a blithering hypergraphic idiot who can't post anything that makes sense,
you are already well past the red line on all counts.

And YOU shouldn't use psychoactives ever, thats pretty obvious- but not for the reasons you describe.

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29 Aug 2008, 8:09 am

LostInEmulation wrote:

monty wrote:

What's your take on the binaural entrainment CDs that claim to lead the brain to a particular frequency?

There are programs like SBaGen, which create binaural beats for free as well as communities around them. IMHO this is a better idea.

Yeah, I've used SBgen before - not really sure that it did much. On the other hand, I got a free sample from one of the (more expensive) commercial companies that pretty reliably leads to a pronounced shift in consciousness when I listen to it ... but I'm too cheap to shell out the big bucks.

With SBgen, I would sometimes feel foggy and exhausted afterwards - so I wasn't surprised to read this article, that found that it might cause negative effects:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17388762

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29 Aug 2008, 8:17 am

honestly, biofeedback machines are about the best you can get for tech aids.

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