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02 Sep 2008, 8:22 pm

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"Anyone who disagrees with me is a foOl with a capital O." ... :P


O-fool?
O'Fool
are you Irish?


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02 Sep 2008, 8:26 pm

A liberal is:

- A conservative who has just been arrested.
- A person that is too broadminded to keep to one side in a quarrel.
- A person whose interests aren't at stake at the moment.

You might be a liberal if you think that protestors outside nuclear power plants are dedicated activists standing up against ecological rape, and that protestors outside abortion clinics are dangerous zealots interfering with a legal activity.

A conservative is:

- A liberal that has just been mugged.
- A person who wrongfully believes that he has the right to keep every penny he's ever earned.
- A person who thinks the wealthy are not being treated fairly.

You might be a conservative if you've ever argued that poverty could be abolished if people were just allowed to keep more of their minimum wage.


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02 Sep 2008, 8:30 pm

From Dictionary.com:

Liberal-
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

Conservative-
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
2. cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.
3. traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.
4. (often initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.

Which banner will you fly?


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02 Sep 2008, 8:36 pm

Stoic.



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02 Sep 2008, 8:37 pm

Regal


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02 Sep 2008, 8:40 pm

MADDuck wrote:
Regal


That assumes authority and money. Being an Epicurean doesn't.



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02 Sep 2008, 10:27 pm

Neutral Good


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02 Sep 2008, 10:46 pm

screw arrests AT what about this BS about pre-emptive arrests and holding people suspected of wanting to protest?


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03 Sep 2008, 12:06 am

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If books by Bill O'reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity are on your shelf, you are a lunatic.


Every good liberal should have these on their bookshelf, how can you expect to fight an enemy you don't understand? I read/watch Michael Moore for the same reason, I think the guy is nuts, but a lot of people take him 100% seriously, and I want to know what they are thinking. If you don't want to give them money, buy them used or download them, that's how I keep up with the left. I actually read Limbaugh when I was in high school, because everyone hated him so much and I wanted to know why. So many people these days form opinions based on sound bites and video clips, I like to actually know what I'm talking about.


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03 Sep 2008, 12:17 am

Fnord wrote:
A liberal is:

- A conservative who has just been arrested.
- A person that is too broadminded to keep to one side in a quarrel.
- A person whose interests aren't at stake at the moment.

You might be a liberal if you think that protestors outside nuclear power plants are dedicated activists standing up against ecological rape, and that protestors outside abortion clinics are dangerous zealots interfering with a legal activity.

A conservative is:

- A liberal that has just been mugged.
- A person who wrongfully believes that he has the right to keep every penny he's ever earned.
- A person who thinks the wealthy are not being treated fairly.

You might be a conservative if you've ever argued that poverty could be abolished if people were just allowed to keep more of their minimum wage.


Very funny, Fnord.......:lol:
But honestly, you know and I know that that such definitions are farcical and clearly Do NOT encapsulate the philosophical principles behind liberalism and conservativism.



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03 Sep 2008, 2:37 am

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I'm somehow reminded of the Democratic National Convention of 1968 in Chicago.. remember Mayor Daley?


The FIRST Mayor daley...man now that I look at it the Daleys are corrupt...how is the secong guy still MAyor..


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03 Sep 2008, 2:43 am

MADDuck wrote:
Orwell wrote:
I'm somehow reminded of the Democratic National Convention of 1968 in Chicago.. remember Mayor Daley?


oh yes..........

that was the shiz-nit.

right now, poppy Bush is being applauded!
ewwwwwwww


so was the 2004 RNC in New York City...seriously, why the f**k did they do it in NEW YORK f*****g CITY of all places given the city size, the megalopolis and easy train rides to Boston, DC, Baltinore, Philadalphia, etc...easy for tjhe 'leftists' in the nation-well a LOT of them all in one place by each other to organize and protest..

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Every good liberal should have these on their bookshelf, how can you expect to fight an enemy you don't understand?


by nuking them all :P j/k; yeah I get your point. Know thy enemy. And I do....then again it's hard to be enemies with someone you know, so we can be friends =]/

Sorry if this post is spammy.

also I forgot

http://www.nornc.org/

and

http://twincities.indymedia.org/

2 sites dealing witg this

also

http://submedia.tv/

is too.


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03 Sep 2008, 9:01 am

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This is why I hate conservative people.

I bet they would let Westboro Baptist Church get away with whatever they wanted.


what does this have to with conservative people?



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03 Sep 2008, 9:10 am

nightbender wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
This is why I hate conservative people.

I bet they would let Westboro Baptist Church get away with whatever they wanted.


what does this have to with conservative people?


Because conservatives are synonymous with Christian fundamentalists.

I dumped my last girlfriend because she was conservative.


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03 Sep 2008, 9:12 am

You guys dont get it. The left-right dualism is faked. Its called the hegelian dialectic. Divide everyone into artificial camps get them fighting eachother instead of the ones in charge.
The guys in both parties/sides get there marching orders from the same organizations



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03 Sep 2008, 10:59 am

nightbender wrote:
You guys dont get it. The left-right dualism is faked. Its called the hegelian dialectic. Divide everyone into artificial camps get them fighting eachother instead of the ones in charge.
The guys in both parties/sides get there marching orders from the same organizations


I found that out already :P

I remember Alex Jones, etc talking about how in 2004 Bush and Kerry were both in Skull & Bones, etc..


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