Conservatives and the Compassion Deficit

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Do you live deep under the earth's surface? Like, with other underground creatures?

Some Aspies really are sociopaths and worse.

Anyone from any walk of life can lack compassion. It's as easy as Apathy 1-2-3.

This tolerance is more theoretical than anything. A lot of (non-fringe) left-wing people have reacted very negatively to my worldview: entirely fact-based, entirely motivated by utility, etc. I don't see what is really wrong with the way I see things. So while they may 'claim' to have tolerance for people with disabilities, their attitudes have tended to be much less than accomodating when they actually come face to face with someone who exhibits the characteristics they claim to have empathy for or whatever. I'm just wired differently ... why can't they understand something that simple? That's why I don't take stock in compassion. It's mostly a fiction.

Conservatives tend to be more or less indifferent towards my attitude. I'm cool with that.

My younger brother and sister were both in wheelchairs growing up, and my parents were constantly fighting battles for physical accessibility in public facilities. While there were asshats on all sides of the political spectrum, it is my observation that liberals were more likely to favor actually changing things for wheelies, while conservatives were more likely to have a 'who cares' attitude and want to spend city or school district money on other things, like athletics.

Chever, I don't see how having a 'fact-based philosophy' that discounts the whole idea of compassion qualifies you as minority. Nor do I see it as surprising that conservatives are ok with those ideas. Experiments have shown that the conservative personality tends to be higher on these attributes: (1) pessimism, disgust and contempt; (2) loss prevention; (3) resistance to change; (4) acceptance of inequality.

Athletics? Pass. Fund the damn teachers and get better equipment when it is aging and not useful anymore.



Having such a clinical world view tends to go along with various forms of autism.

More often than with NTs anyway.

I think AG got the crux of it right there, does no one else see the irony of the ideology that's so "compassionate" stereotyping and marginalizing their political opponents? As an advocate of small government, I get awful tired of having my morals attacked because I oppose charity at gunpoint, which is what government welfare programs amount to.

I am a compassioned person, therefore I am not conservative

Well, I think the term compassion have a different meaning from each point of view, in the liberal point of view, more like equal oportunity for all, from the conservative point of view, it would be different I suppose.

I agree that it seems that liberals to be friendlier to people with disabilities than conservatives, it wouldn't be surprising that few conservatives might have had doubts about AS and autism from their point of view, for example. Michael Savage comes to mind. Although not all conservatives agree, of course.
Another example, the AS/autism awareness and aspie/autistic pride seem to be somehow of liberal movements, or at least to promote equality/equal rights, doesn't seem to be an approach from a conservative point of view, but I could be wrong.

Humanism, which could be considered a left-leaning ideology is somehow a compassionate ideology, from all what makes their philosophy, from what I see. They being against the death penalty, while conservatives are in favor of it, even though dead seems to be the most compassionate thing for the convicted. Also the issue on abortion, the approach to prevent the kid from having a bad life, can be considered out of compassion.

I would assume most conservatives would refuse assisted suicide, while others are in favor of it, out of compassion.

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There's nothing "entirely fact based" or "entirely motivated by utility" about your opinion that the human species deserves to die in a nuclear holocaust because of such things as the Holocaust. These kinds of things will obviously put a lot of people off.

Yes, and it becomes an opinion, and that's it, an opinion, someone claiming to be entirely fact based, I would question that premise just for the claim itself, as most of our opinions come from personal perspectives and personal experience, based on our own personality and character, and if it is based on AS considering social stuff, then the doubt is great (subjective).

Would it be reasonable for me to convince myself of 'facts' based on random people posting in a web forum? however, it is interesting and I can learn and research stuff if I get interested and keep an open mind about different thoughts, wether they are factual or not.

It certainly does seem that liberals (who are, scientifically, sissies) engage in these banal psychoanalyze and then dismiss games more frequently in my experience. One of those things that used to make me breathe fire...


Deep sea, aphotic zone.

Liberals vs conservatives = laziness vs zealots...

Liberals can be (or are) zealots, while conservatives can be (or are) zealots as as well.

Liberals vs Conservatives =
Jesus vs Phariseans

In the same order of course

How does being replaced by something better not have utility (for someone or something)?

That's clearly motivated by utility.

But, anyway, my point is that left-wingers claim (in theory) to have tolerance for people who are 'disabled' in some sense. They supposedly appreciate circumstance e.g.., being born with limited empathy and then slowly becoming desensitized to violence as a result of other people's reactions to this ... but they really don't.