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12 Sep 2008, 5:30 pm

Is it true? :?


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12 Sep 2008, 5:39 pm

I doubt that's true. A pacifist mob killing people is a bit of an oxymoron.

***I'm not in the mood for arguing***. I need to save debating energy for next week, thank you. :twisted: heh heh heh


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12 Sep 2008, 5:51 pm

greenblue wrote:
Is it true? :?

Of course it is! Don't you know that pacifists are murdering sociopaths without soul or conscience? I mean, seriously, how else could you explain an odd doctrine like theirs?



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12 Sep 2008, 5:57 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Is it true? :?

Of course it is! Don't you know that pacifists are murdering sociopaths without soul or conscience? I mean, seriously, how else could you explain an odd doctrine like theirs?

Me, I am a pacifist who would enjoy exterminating all the sociopaths that exist and collect their body parts as trophies.


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12 Sep 2008, 7:01 pm

I do believe that there are places where violence is the answer. However, it should only be used as a last resort. And if a war is to occur, the person leading the nation shouldn't be a Moron...



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12 Sep 2008, 8:25 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
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I think pacifists should be subject to random beatings, the possibility of being killed on sight, and an eventual rounding up and mass slaughter.


Uh, excuse me? I thought we got along on this forum. Is it your tongue-in-cheek humor- again?

I don't think Orwell is joking. His family was killed by a roving band of pacifists.

This is a painful topic for me, AG. I don't want to talk about it. :cry:

Curse those murdering pacifists! :twisted:


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12 Sep 2008, 8:28 pm

Here's an interesting question: Does unilaterally taking violence off the table make it more likely to occur, as the person/entity doing this is perceived as an easy mark, and that violence can be committed against them with impunity? Conversely, does the obvious threat of a violent response to violence cause less violence to occur, e.g. do I walking around with a holstered pistol cause less violence to occur in total due to the deterrent effect of the presence of force?


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12 Sep 2008, 8:43 pm

I'm not a violent man. I'm a pacifiist, like Jesus was. Even if I wanted to, I don't think I could ever hurt somebody else regardless of how they've hurt me.





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12 Sep 2008, 8:44 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Here's an interesting question: Does unilaterally taking violence off the table make it more likely to occur, as the person/entity doing this is perceived as an easy mark, and that violence can be committed against them with impunity? Conversely, does the obvious threat of a violent response to violence cause less violence to occur, e.g. do I walking around with a holstered pistol cause less violence to occur in total due to the deterrent effect of the presence of force?


I understood none of this paragraph.



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12 Sep 2008, 8:57 pm

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I understood none of this paragraph.


He basically suggested that to offer no form of defense as a matter of principle may increase the rate of violent crime, as one may be seen as a more opportune and vulnerable target.


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12 Sep 2008, 9:23 pm

Nonviolent resistance, like Ghandi and Jesus and Buddha? Yes and yes. I'm a realist and I know that in this world there is no avoiding conflict. But it isn't so much
that you fight as it is how you fight, as far as physical aggression is concerned.

And I am a big believer in the Golden Rule and the reciprocity of energies. I believe you will encounter more violence in your life if you are a naturally aggressive person than if you're a naturally peaceful person. Send out negativity, receive negativity back.

I've done plenty of violence in my life, but all of it has been self-directed, self-targeting. See, I'm one of those poor souls who can't help but to repress his rage and hatred, performing acts of self-harm to be be free of it. I've cut, burned, and banged, but never have I physically aggressed against another human being. I am simply not able.



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12 Sep 2008, 9:32 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Nonviolent resistance, like Ghandi and Jesus and Buddha? Yes and yes. I'm a realist and I know that in this world there is no avoiding conflict. But it isn't so much
that you fight as it is how you fight, as far as physical aggression is concerned.

And I am a big believer in the Golden Rule and the reciprocity of energies. I believe you will encounter more violence in your life if you are a naturally aggressive person than if you're a naturally peaceful person. Send out negativity, receive negativity back.

I've done plenty of violence in my life, but all of it has been self-directed, self-targeting. See, I'm one of those poor souls who can't help but to repress his rage and hatred, performing acts of self-harm to be be free of it. I've cut, burned, and banged, but never have I physically aggressed against another human being. I am simply not able.


well, there are hate crimes.. gay people get killed all the time :( and we know most of them are very nice



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12 Sep 2008, 9:49 pm

Whoever does these gay killings and gay bashing has gotten that negative energy from somewhere. Random homicides exist where people get shot or stabbed for no apparent reason. :( Goes to show how much pain and sickness there is in the world.



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12 Sep 2008, 10:11 pm

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Whoever does these gay killings and gay bashing has gotten that negative energy from somewhere. Random homicides exist where people get shot or stabbed for no apparent reason. :( Goes to show how much pain and sickness there is in the world.


maybe.. i guess that could be true.

and yes. . much pain and much sickness :x



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12 Sep 2008, 10:58 pm

ShawnWilliam wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Whoever does these gay killings and gay bashing has gotten that negative energy from somewhere. Random homicides exist where people get shot or stabbed for no apparent reason. :( Goes to show how much pain and sickness there is in the world.


maybe.. i guess that could be true.

and yes. . much pain and much sickness :x


I don't think it has anything to do with kharma or energy. I think this world just has people that are morally bankrupt and/or severely mentally unstable. There's no energy...just people.


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12 Sep 2008, 11:00 pm

Pacifist...isn't that that thing that babies suck on?


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