Understanding the Aspies are superior arguement

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People with aspergers are superior to the general population
I do not agree and was diagnosed during my school years or earlier 34%  34%  [ 18 ]
I do not agree and was diagnosed as an adult 43%  43%  [ 23 ]
I agree and was diagnosed during my school years or earlier 11%  11%  [ 6 ]
I agree and was diagnosed as an adult 11%  11%  [ 6 ]
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11 Oct 2008, 5:53 pm

I don't think it's as simple as superior or inferior. Superiority notions would come from the genius cliche I suppose, but genius is both superior and inferior.



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14 Oct 2008, 4:42 am

Indisputably, there are several attributes and characteristics in which Aspies are demonstratably superior to NT's. Concurrently, there are a variety of manners in which NT's are undoubtedly better than Aspies. Which is more important or to be more highly valued, those things at which Aspies are better or those things at which NT's are better? That is a subjective value judgment I will not attempt to make. There is room in this world for all different kinds; let each person use the talents they have been endowed with rather than wishing that they had a different set of abilities and weaknesses.


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14 Oct 2008, 7:22 am

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I think anyone who feels superior is compensating for a perceived flaw within themselves. In other words, people don't want to hate themselves, so they twist it around in their minds to see the flaw as a benefit instead of a problem. It's a natural defense mechanism that not everyone employs for every aspect of their personalities. There are all sorts of psychological defense mechanisms and that is one of them.


I can't tell you how much I agree with this. :wtg:



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14 Oct 2008, 7:29 am

To have a general opinion on AS people you have to include the whole group. I doubt this site is totally representative of the entire group.



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14 Oct 2008, 7:50 am

Sand wrote:
To have a general opinion on AS people you have to include the whole group. I doubt this site is totally representative of the entire group.


It's a fairly good cross-section, I think.



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14 Oct 2008, 3:52 pm

diagnosed in school years (15-16) and disagree

There are things I can do better than most people. There are also things I do poorly compared to most people.



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14 Oct 2008, 9:14 pm

The abilities we generally excel in are contrasted by the basic attributes we often fail to grasp. (i.e. Communicating our ideas and views successfully). When we compare to NTs, we are typically an unbalanced human; generally excelling 3 broad skills, while failing at 3 others. Where an NT may be passable in the 6 I can think of, we may be superior in 3 and below average in 3, which basically balances out. Please note that the aspie pattern is more likely than the NT pattern; I tend to see much more variation in "NTs" than in Aspies (read: myself).

By the way, I was diagnosed at 13, and disagree, if you haven't gathered that.


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14 Oct 2008, 10:10 pm

I was 18 years old but a senior in high school when I was diagnosed, so I'm in poll-option limbo. :(



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18 Oct 2008, 3:56 pm

chever wrote:
All told, neither group is superior.

Autists of all kinds (who can speak) seem typically more honest than NT's.

But total honesty is not always a good thing.

etc....


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Anywho, I think Aspies are more intelligent than "normal" people and a lot of Aspies become successful, and I think this is partly due to the fact we can learn very fast about stuff we are interested in.

However, obviously AS has disadvantages, and "normal" people (or NT's) are better at certain things like socialising.

Therefore, I dont really see either as "superior".



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18 Oct 2008, 6:21 pm

Sand wrote:
To have a general opinion on AS people you have to include the whole group. I doubt this site is totally representative of the entire group.


And PPR is even less representative. I thought I was posting this in the General AS forum. To be honest I have not seen too much elitism of this kind in PPR but a far bit in General AS.


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08 Apr 2017, 9:32 am

pffftttt. I'm smarter than an aspie.



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08 Apr 2017, 12:45 pm

Phagocyte wrote:
It's important to remember that the diagnostic criteria for Aspergers is average-range intelligence or above, not superior intelligence necessarily.


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08 Apr 2017, 1:23 pm

I know I sometimes get an attitude (perhaps rather snarky) that I'm better than NTs as sort of a backlash against being considered 'defective' by them.
That gets old, ya know.


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08 Apr 2017, 4:26 pm

I am intellectually superior to most NT people, because I spend most of my time thinking, and not socializing.

However, NT people are much better than me at verbal skills. They have cohesive speech, where, I have "recitation-of-facts speech".



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08 Apr 2017, 4:34 pm

In my honest opinion, people with Asperger's are neither lesser nor superior than NT's. Heck, even AS people have as much weaknesses as normal people, just like NT's have as much strengths as AS folks. We're just not all the same.

Believe me, I keep understanding my own flaws all the time.



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08 Apr 2017, 5:28 pm

Oh absolutely....we aspies are superior to everyone else, and are the next stage in evolution, and all of that....

In fact this is our theme song!

https://youtu.be/lWF8iRCan7I