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05 Oct 2008, 10:22 pm

Logically, anyone named 'Macleod' has an ugly father.


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05 Oct 2008, 10:23 pm

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Barack = Benedict = Benedict Arnold

I rest my case


By that logic:

Buddhism = uses the swastika as a holy symbol = Nazis

I am now pre-empting any Godwins that show up... :P



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05 Oct 2008, 10:35 pm

The branches of the Buddhist good luck symbol go in the opposite direction.

My name comes from the latin word clear, which I am very seldom. :wink:



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05 Oct 2008, 10:37 pm

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No, it is possible to legitimately disagree with many of the man's policies. I disagree with him on a number of issues, don't really care about him being black, or, if you believe some people, Arab or whatever. I'd have to say that I dislike McCain more than I do Obama, and I'm white. So it seems fair to say that my dislike of Obama is not based primarily on racist tendencies.

Sorry Orwell, but it just comes off as fearful and outright raciest, and totally ignorant, its ok to disagree with any politician, but some of this talk is getting a little paranoid over Obama's race and alleged terrorist affiliations. Personally I am more nervious of McCain croaking in office and the librarian bimbotron getting into power.



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05 Oct 2008, 10:42 pm

LOL, don't insult librarians ... actually, she screwed over the librarian in Wasilla


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05 Oct 2008, 10:48 pm

spudnik wrote:
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No, it is possible to legitimately disagree with many of the man's policies. I disagree with him on a number of issues, don't really care about him being black, or, if you believe some people, Arab or whatever. I'd have to say that I dislike McCain more than I do Obama, and I'm white. So it seems fair to say that my dislike of Obama is not based primarily on racist tendencies.

Sorry Orwell, but it just comes off as fearful and outright raciest, and totally ignorant, its ok to disagree with any politician, but some of this talk is getting a little paranoid over Obama's race and alleged terrorist affiliations.

Yes, there are some racists or people who use racist rhetoric against Obama. But you made the blanket statement that "people who don't want him as president are racist [sic]" which is clearly not true. Some opponents of Obama are racists, but to claim that everyone who doesn't support Obama is simply absurd. I agree that the attempt to link him with terrorists are quite lame, and have said so in the past. I don't care to debate how black Obama "really" is, or anything else. I just want to see what policies he's proposing. So far, I dislike him, but less than I dislike the other Senator.

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Personally I am more nervious of McCain croaking in office and the librarian bimbotron getting into power.

She's not a librarian, but yes, I am mortally terrified of what would happen if she assumed the Presidency.


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05 Oct 2008, 10:56 pm

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But you made the blanket statement that "people who don't want him as president are racist [sic]" which is clearly not true.
Right. That would be like saying, everyone who is voting for him is doing it because they are afraid of being called racist.



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05 Oct 2008, 11:01 pm

Nice one


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05 Oct 2008, 11:13 pm

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Barrack = derived from Hebrew Barukh = Blessed
Hussein = Arabic = Good, handsome one
Obama = Derived from that Luo word "Bam" = "crooked (slightly bent) one".


That is interesting because my research on his name has two interpretations.
One good, one evil. Above seems to be a mixture of the two interpretations.
And there are also two "Barack's". Best hope we DON'T get the bad one! :evil:

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05 Oct 2008, 11:16 pm

So, do you mean to say that black people are evil? -_-

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Khan_Sama wrote:
ValMikeSmith wrote:
but they mean something. Not like John Doe. More like precolumbian Americans,
which have names like "Red Arrow", "Crazy Horse", "Sitting Bull", etc.


Barrack = derived from Hebrew Barukh = Blessed
Hussein = Arabic = Good, handsome one
Obama = Derived from that Luo word "Bam" = "crooked (slightly bent) one".

People outside the west have names which generally have a meaning attached to it. For example, my name is Minhaj [the (correct) way of] Ahmed (highly praised) Khan (leader).

People in the west also have many names with meanings. For example, Benedict is the Latin version of Barukh.

Pfft, my given name is derived from English and means a purveyor of goods, or keeper of provisions. I'm no shopkeeper.

My middle name is derived from Greek and means "defender of men" but I'm no warrior.

My last name, though inherited from Italy, was distorted either by some mistake by immigration officials or by a deliberate choice to a different name that would, by freak coincidence, register as originating in Scotland or Ireland. The original Italian name refers to a specific location where an ancient ancestor of mine in patrilinear descent presumably lived, the coincidental Irish name that was accidentally created from it means "little black one."

Now, I am not English, Greek, or Italian. I am predominantly Scottish and Irish (meaning Celtic, not Anglo-Saxon) in ethnic background. Though my surname would register as Irish/Scottish, that is only by accident and the name was inherited from an Italian a couple generations back. There are also many Spaniards with a similar last name.

People who try to read to much into the literal meaning of names are morons. Dissecting the meaning of my name tells you nothing about me- I am not a keeper of provisions, a defender of men, or someone from a particular location in the southern parts of Italy. Nor is the accidental Gaelicization of my surname of any value- "little black one?" Nope, I'm about as white as they come, and of average size.


Yes. I just meant to say that, names commonly have meanings in most parts of the world.

Btw, my father's name means "the one who thunders", and he has a bad temper. xD



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05 Oct 2008, 11:18 pm

Another independent interpretation, and opinion, from somebody else somewhere:

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Obama's entire name is based upon Islamic mythology and African conquest.
Barack Hussein Obama means
[Allah's blessing] [Mohammed's grandson] [One of Mohammed's finest warriors].

Not that he's a Muslim or anything, though.
Really.
Besides, what's wrong with being a Muslim?
It's not like they've declared war on us or anything.
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05 Oct 2008, 11:26 pm

claire333 wrote:
The branches of the Buddhist good luck symbol go in the opposite direction.


They used to go whichever way they pleased, but they only go the opposite direction now because of nazis. I was just using the nazi comparison to highlight a locial fallacy (like how Robin Williams once responded to "the confederate flag is just a symbol of states' rights" with "and a swatika is a Tibetan good luck charm")...



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05 Oct 2008, 11:27 pm

ValMikeSmith wrote:
Another independent interpretation, and opinion, from somebody else somewhere:

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Obama's entire name is based upon Islamic mythology and African conquest.
Barack Hussein Obama means
[Allah's blessing] [Mohammed's grandson] [One of Mohammed's finest warriors].

Not that he's a Muslim or anything, though.
Really.
Besides, what's wrong with being a Muslim?
It's not like they've declared war on us or anything.
:!:


Twice as many people die from peanut allergies every year in the USA than terrorism.

On July 20, 2007, the North Carolina Agricultural & Technical State University announced that one of its scientists, Dr. Mohamed Ahmedna (a Muslim), had developed a process to make allergen-free peanuts. Initial testing showed a 100 percent inactivation of peanut allergens in whole roasted kernels, and human serums from severely allergic individuals showed no reaction when exposed to the processed peanuts. Food companies have expressed an interest in licensing the process, which purportedly does not degrade the taste or quality of treated peanuts, and even results in easier processing to use as an ingredient in food products.



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05 Oct 2008, 11:43 pm

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Yes. I just meant to say that, names commonly have meanings in most parts of the world.

I know. But whenever an American hears a funny-sounding foreign name, they ask "Oh what does that mean?" and then try to connect that with the person who bears the name. Which is, of course, utter BS.


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06 Oct 2008, 12:02 am

Yes. My last name is Germanic, but it looks very much like a scottish/english name. It contains "man" as a suffix, which was derived from "mann" which is infinitely more German.

On my paternal grandmothers side it is a name that sounds French to a lot of people. But it is also German. It all depends on if you pronounce "ch" as "sh" or "k". Ironically, they came from Alsace-Lorraine, which is now part of France. At the time it was called Elsaß-Lothringen. They buggered off because the French revolutionary army invaded.

In regards to English style names, many common names come from old English, and you can use them to determine what an ancestor did, and not only that, which sex of ancestor. For example, if your last name is Baker, then, yes, you had a MALE baker for an ancestor. However, if its Baxter, then you had a FEMALE baker for an ancestor!

I love words.


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06 Oct 2008, 12:46 am

Khan_Sama wrote:
Twice as many people die from peanut allergies every year in the USA than terrorism.


Yeah, if the gubbermint really wanted to save a lot of American lives, they'd pull over people who seem to believe the speed limit doesn't apply to them and let the air out of their tires. I can virtually guarantee that would save more lives than any counter-terrorism effort, since the lifetime chance of dying in a car crash in the US is relatively high: 1 in 5,300. A lot of that figure owes to a**hole and/or drunk drivers who should not operate lethal two ton vehicles.

Animal gut instinct winning over statistics everyday is one of the most utterly disappointing things about the human race


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