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14 Oct 2008, 1:34 pm

What doesn't scare you?



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14 Oct 2008, 1:42 pm

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Christianity and Misanthropy are mutualy repellent. They cannot abide eachother.



That makes sense. But I have to say, many aspects of Calvinist Protestantism are somewhat misanthropic.
What calvinists dislike about people is that they're physical beings with physical urges-notably sexual impulses. But misanthropy without a doubt is TOTALLY contrary to the creed of Catholicism.



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14 Oct 2008, 1:42 pm

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What doesn't scare you?


Your made-up God ofc.


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14 Oct 2008, 1:43 pm

Fnord wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
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Is it (even remotely)possible to be a Christian and a misanthrope?

Yes, but only if you're a lousy Christian.

Or a good misanthrope!

:wink:

That would be a sociopathic misanthrope ;)
Really, having a position of power when you can manipulate the masses, then, yes, a christian can be that, a good way to get advantage of people's needs and hopes.


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14 Oct 2008, 3:26 pm

greenblue wrote:
Fnord wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
Is it (even remotely)possible to be a Christian and a misanthrope?

Yes, but only if you're a lousy Christian.

Or a good misanthrope!

:wink:

That would be a sociopathic misanthrope ;)
Really, having a position of power when you can manipulate the masses, then, yes, a christian can be that, a good way to get advantage of people's needs and hopes.


So basically any christian in power?? :wink:



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14 Oct 2008, 3:56 pm

Averick wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Fnord wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
Is it (even remotely)possible to be a Christian and a misanthrope?

Yes, but only if you're a lousy Christian.

Or a good misanthrope!

:wink:

That would be a sociopathic misanthrope ;)
Really, having a position of power when you can manipulate the masses, then, yes, a christian can be that, a good way to get advantage of people's needs and hopes.


So basically any christian in power?? :wink:


Yeah, just like any non-Christian in power. Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, anyone?



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14 Oct 2008, 4:01 pm

chever wrote:
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What doesn't scare you?


Your made-up God ofc.

The God of the OT is very scary ;)


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14 Oct 2008, 4:02 pm

He sucks. He's a dirty butthole.


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14 Oct 2008, 4:04 pm

I tend to find 'happy clappy' christians a bit creepy.

This is satan's world, why wouldn't one be a misanthrope?

As for it being calvinist, and innately non-catholic, why do you think hermits exist? why do they go off and live in the desert or in a forest?

I think it's usually referred to as Christian Pessimism and it's not restricted to any one faith.



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14 Oct 2008, 4:34 pm

greenblue wrote:
chever wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
What doesn't scare you?


Your made-up God ofc.

The God of the OT is very scary ;)



Nah! He's overrated. Just a sagging old man.. :lol:



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14 Oct 2008, 4:36 pm

Fred Phelps.


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14 Oct 2008, 5:04 pm

I'd say its very possible for a person with Christian upbringing and values to feel jaded enough by the world around them to start wondering if they are; usually they see that as a problem to resolve though rather than an end destination (unless they have some sort of mental illness that they aren't addressing).



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14 Oct 2008, 6:22 pm

Everchanging wrote:
Fred Phelps.


Fred Phelps? Give me a break. :roll:



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14 Oct 2008, 8:47 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Christianity and Misanthropy are mutualy repellent. They cannot abide eachother.

I disagree, you can like God but like people a lot less. It isn't ideal Christianity, but it is possible, and I think a Christian misanthrope would try to help people if put in a responsible position, it is just that such a person would find it hard to enjoy such a thing and prefer to stick to work that is more abstract, and to a faith that is more theo-centric, like Calvinism, as some people have already mentioned.



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14 Oct 2008, 8:55 pm

Calvinist misanthrope here, to confirm the suspicions of all of you claiming that Calvinists hate everyone.

Really though, my dislike of people in general isn't based on my faith, and I recognize that in many ways it runs counter to the Christian faith. But, needless to say, I'm not a perfect Christian, and arguably not even a halfway-decent one.

So yes, it is possible to be both a Christian and a misanthrope (even if this does imply a certain level of internal contradiction in worldview) for the simple reason that no Christian is able to fully live up to the ideal.


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14 Oct 2008, 8:57 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Christianity and Misanthropy are mutualy repellent. They cannot abide eachother.

I disagree, you can like God but like people a lot less. It isn't ideal Christianity, but it is possible, and I think a Christian misanthrope would try to help people if put in a responsible position, it is just that such a person would find it hard to enjoy such a thing and prefer to stick to work that is more abstract, and to a faith that is more theo-centric, like Calvinism, as some people have already mentioned.


Jesus' Sermon on the Mount? Love thy neighbour as you love yourself? If you love God but hate your fellow man, you're a hypocrite.