Chavez Oil Handouts!! !!

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This was written by an American:

Look at the Chronicle/AP photo of the anti-Chavez marchers in Venezuela. Note their color. White.

And not just any white. A creamy rich white.

I interviewed them and recorded in this order: a banker in high heels and push-up bra; an oil industry executive (same outfit); and a plantation owner who rode to Caracas in a silver Jaguar.

And the color of the pro-Chavez marchers? Dark brown. Brown and round as cola nuts -- just like their hero, their President Chavez. They wore an unvarying uniform of jeans and T-shirts.

Let me explain.

For five centuries, Venezuela has been run by a minority of very white people, pure-blood descendants of the Spanish conquistadors. To most of the 80 percent of Venezuelans who are brown, Hugo Chavez is their Nelson Mandela, the man who will smash the economic and social apartheid that has kept the dark-skinned millions stacked in cardboard houses in the hills above Caracas while the whites live in high-rise splendor in the city center. Chavez, as one white Caracas reporter told me with a sneer, gives them bricks and milk, and so they vote for him.

Why am I explaining the basics of Venezuela to you? If you watched BBC TV, or Canadian Broadcasting, you'd know all this stuff. But if you read the New York Times, you'll only know that President Chavez is an "autocrat," a "ruinous demagogue," and a "would-be dictator," who resigned when he recognized his unpopularity.

Odd phrasings -- "dictator" and "autocrat" -- to describe Chavez, who was elected by a landslide majority (56 percent) of the voters. Unlike our President.


As you can see the corporate press in the West try to cover up pro-socialist activities because it doesn't fit their agenda.

Basically the rich white (minority) oppose Chavez and the poor native blacks/browns support him (majority).

Nelson Mandela was probably a poor comparison. While he is considered to be extremely politically correct, what he accomplished turned out to have ambiguous long term results. He may have created some new opportunities for blacks, but he ousted the government of what was probably the nicest country on that continent (and barely still is) and now it's gradually turning into another African s**thole.

If that is the kind of administration Chzavez intends to lead, then he needs to be taken out to avoid the national security implications his administration would have on the western hemisphere.

If you are so keen to take people out Sean, why don't you have the muscle to join the army and do just that.

Joining the Marines would have been my first career choice. I can't join because I have cerebral palsy. From a medical standpoint, it is impossible for me to meet the the physical requirements. Otherwise I probably would have been to Afghanistan and Iraq by now because I would have volunteered for the tour of duty.

at least you are honest.

To be honest, I don't give a s**t about America's security. The sooner we have a new socialist world order, the better.....

free healthcare............
free education.............
free food....................
free renewable energy...
free elections................
free transport...............
worthwhile employment....
no wars........................

Come on Mr Chavez!! !!

There wouldn't be enough resouces to manufacture medical supplies for everyone. People sever physical or mental conditions would have to be left to die or dumped in 19th century style institutions to keep from taking up more than their fair share of resources. Also, communist health programs provide the same quality of care as a typical American vetinary clinic.


Okay.


If you tried to ration food evenly among everyone in the world, nobody would get more than 800 calories a day. Your sytem also does not take some people's allergies into consideration. The means to feed everybody just doesn't exist. You would still be faces with bread lines, people dying in the streets from starvation, and riots. In America, I would propose having a system where anybody that can prove citizenship can be givin a ration card for at least one MRE per day if they really need it and leave the rest of the food on the free market.


You would have to be careful not to use up resouces usable for food or other purposes to make energy or you will put a drain on your society that wouldn't exist if you used fossil fuels or nuclear power.


Okay.


You could have free transport, but it's so grossly inefficient that you can't get any where on it. Public transportation is a prime example of getting what you pay for.


In 5,000 years of civilization, you would be the first to accomplish that. There are alway going to be unfulfiling menial jobs. Unless you plan on taking a page out of Brave New World and creating a genetically engineered race of ret*ds to fill those jobs, there will always be discontent.


Society would stagnate under one world government with no wars. There would have to be a seperate order on the moon or Mars with at least some healthy competition before a united government on Earth would be benificial.

To sum it all up, if you had your way, you would likely get lynched faster than the Italians did to Mussolini.

If you are talking about America, I believe we already have free education (well, education payed for by taxes). It is called the public school system. Also, if you are still talking about America, we have free elections.

Good luck with the "no wars" thing. People have been fighting each other practically since the beginning of time, often over something stupid. Just look at the French and the English... how many hundreds of years was it before they could get along with one another?

You sound as if you are trying to create something that was in Brave New World or 1984 or another novel like that.

free love.....................

love is all you need

Off topic, but that reminds me of one of the songs on Moulin Rouge.

Jules Verne's Journey to the Center of the Moon.

yeah i'd like to see some free elections and freedom of powers here. the electoral authorities tolerate the abuses from chavez & co. political trials happen everyday, former oil industry workers can't get jobs related to that due to political pressures (any resemblance to the third reich or the apartheid is mere coincidence).

Nothing works efficiently here, not even applying for a passport, streets are riddled with potholes, beggars can be found at every street crossing, the poor will be poorer, the fake reality of subsidized groceries can lead to riots if we choose to embrace free market later, that could happen with gasoline too.

our army is a bunch of illiterate kids who will sh*t their pants with the sole presence of abrams tanks and stealth fighters so they will defect en masse if any foreign country gives them better weapons and support.

so guys, this is the venezuelan reality.

Hate to sound crass Robert, but if it's like that - big brother's gonna SEX YOU UP!. If you'd like to get killed for speaking an unpopular belief or see your kids tortured for it, have one brand of coffee, one brand of everything, have an off-the-charts malpractice rate in hospitals because everyone gets a job and keeps it with no incentive for improvement, all that free stuff your getting is gonna be crap in quality also because of lack of incentive (well, unless they have kaizen production systems with bullets for people who can't keep up), instead of a good percentage of people living in poverty pretty much everyone will, that's an extreme example but thats where it tends to go.

Your probably one of the first people to scream bloody murder I'd imagine when your rights to free speech, freedom of religion, and freedom to do pretty much whatever you want gets squashed by someone. Well, socialism can't be touched in having a trackrecord for taking away freedoms and turning entire countries into something more like huge expansive prisons because the economics of socialism are only viable once your telling people how they can live, how they can't live, what they can and can't do, etc. etc. etc..

About a year ago, I remember talking to a guy in Belgium who was absolutely amazed that our free healthcare here is at best rudimentary. I asked him what he payed in taxes to live in Belgium, which is a socialised welfare state. He in turn responded that about %40 of his gross pay dissipeared in the form of taxes. --On top of the additional taxes he had to pay to keep a car on the road, and the $6-7 a gallon in fuel. -- Of which, most of that is yet more taxes.

Furthermore, this man was not a rich person at all.

That 'Free' healthcare, education, food, and transport isn't so free after all is it? --One way or another, you invariably wind up footing the bill.

Well at least those that can afford to pay are paying, rather than those that can't afford to pay.

I think the comrade can organise some free love...

Free love may be a good idea in principle, but it isn't very good for the sex industry- it'll put a lot of people out of work.