Mistranslations of the Bible re: Homosexuality

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30 Nov 2008, 10:38 pm

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...breeders

You call heterosexuals 'breeders' - you're okay with heterosexuals calling homosexual peole 'fags', 'fa***ts', 'buggers', 'poofs' or 'fairies' are you?

If heterosexuals aren't allowed to use derogatory terms for homos, then I suggest homosexuals don't use derogatory terms for heteros.



(As if all heterosexuals have children anyway - I certainly don't want any. Urgh...)


Breeder is a term of endearment for those hetero's that make children in the desperate hope of producing a truly fabulous child. ;)

1 in 10 actually succeed!

Besides, breeding isn't really a negative thing, unless you believe in the extinction of mankind?


you mean 1 in 100


Nope, I meant 10.

Queers make up much more then 1% of the population.

(and before anyone attacks the usage of the phrase Queer, its usage has come to be used as an all-inclusive term for the LGBTQ community)

Even assuming Kinsey's sample wasn't random enough to justify applying the 10% to the general population, it's still much higher then 1%.

Heck, of the 178 guys in my graduating class from back in high school, I can name 20 that are LGBTQ. :P Is that sample random enough, or did I just go to a really queer school?



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30 Nov 2008, 10:39 pm

anal sex, penis in butthole then in mouth


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30 Nov 2008, 10:41 pm

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anal sex, penis in butthole then in mouth



Maturity, you're doing it wrong.



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01 Dec 2008, 10:54 am

flutter wrote:
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anal sex, penis in butthole then in mouth



Maturity, you're doing it wrong.


Shouldn't it be, Penis in mouth then in butthole? For health and sanitary reasons, yes?



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01 Dec 2008, 12:15 pm

flutter wrote:
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...Breeder is a term of endearment for those hetero's that make children in the desperate hope of producing a truly fabulous child. ;)

1 in 10 actually succeed!...


you mean 1 in 100


Nope, I meant 10....

So basically, you're saying that queers are truly fabulous while non-queers aren't.

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Is that sample random enough, or did I just go to a really queer school?

The latter.

My friend went to a really queer school during her year in America. It was an arts school which tends to attract queers. She wasn't herself queer though.

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anal sex, penis in butthole then in mouth



Maturity, you're doing it wrong.

Hear, hear.


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01 Dec 2008, 12:55 pm

Greyhound wrote:
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...Breeder is a term of endearment for those hetero's that make children in the desperate hope of producing a truly fabulous child. ;)

1 in 10 actually succeed!...


you mean 1 in 100


Nope, I meant 10....

So basically, you're saying that queers are truly fabulous while non-queers aren't.

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Is that sample random enough, or did I just go to a really queer school?

The latter.

My friend went to a really queer school during her year in America. It was an arts school which tends to attract queers. She wasn't herself queer though.

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anal sex, penis in butthole then in mouth



Maturity, you're doing it wrong.

Hear, hear.




To be truly fabulous?

fab·u·lous (fāb'yə-ləs)
adj.

1. Barely credible; astonishing: the fabulous endurance of a marathon runner.
2. Extremely pleasing or successful: a fabulous vacation.
3.
1. Of the nature of a fable or myth; legendary.
2. Told of or celebrated in fables or legends.


How many straight people do you know who have that much personality that their existence is almost hard to believe. ;)

And since this is an Aspie board, I'm going to explain that I'm joking around at this point before people take me seriously. :P




And, I went to an all boys catholic school, so that may have skewed the numbers (probably a lot!) but hey, who am I to say good little catholic boys are more likely to be queer? ;)



Was the "hear hear" directed at my slightly sardonic poke at breeders? (pardon the pun) or were you actually agreeing with me on something?



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01 Dec 2008, 12:59 pm

slowmutant wrote:
flutter wrote:
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anal sex, penis in butthole then in mouth



Maturity, you're doing it wrong.


Shouldn't it be, Penis in mouth then in butthole? For health and sanitary reasons, yes?


One would hope.



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01 Dec 2008, 1:14 pm

flutter wrote:
And since this is an Aspie board, I'm going to explain that I'm joking around at this point before people take me seriously. :P

Oh :lol: I'm glad you posted that, or I wouldn't have known (not sarcastic).

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Was the "hear hear" directed at my slightly sardonic poke at breeders? (pardon the pun) or were you actually agreeing with me on something?

I was agreeing with the bit I quoted which was your funny reply to Dokken: 'Maturity, you're doing it wrong.'


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01 Dec 2008, 5:29 pm

no. its 1% for males and 1.5% for females. these are the correct statistics.

1 in 10 is just homosexualist proganda

you just went to a really gay high school



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01 Dec 2008, 6:06 pm

nightbender wrote:
no. its 1% for males and 1.5% for females. these are the correct statistics.

1 in 10 is just homosexualist proganda

you just went to a really gay high school


Not to mention the "metrosexual" fad, where people think it's cool to pretend to be gay... the High School Musical films don't help either... I've done actual high school musicals back in the day and they're nothing like that...



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01 Dec 2008, 7:02 pm

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no. its 1% for males and 1.5% for females. these are the correct statistics.

1 in 10 is just homosexualist proganda

you just went to a really gay high school


I've at least got Kinsey to back me up, would you care to provide some actual proof of your statements?



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01 Dec 2008, 7:08 pm

And let me just say, from experience, that it *is* much greater then 1%.

I understand the problems in Kinsey's sample population, and how it possibly skewed the results in favor of homosexuals, but a 10% shift is hard to believe, especially when you've been out in the world in any major metropolitan city.

You're spewing what essentially sounds like Westboro Baptist crap.

Is your last name Phelps by any chance?



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01 Dec 2008, 7:19 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi ... rientation

your referencing kinsey, who arrived at his "data" by giving little children to child molesters.

ANd i didnt personally attack you.

resorting to ad hominem typical.



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01 Dec 2008, 7:27 pm

nightbender wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation

your referencing kinsey, who arrived at his "data" by giving little children to child molesters.

ANd i didnt personally attack you.

resorting to ad hominem typical.


From your link :

Quote:
In general, surveys quoted by anti-gay activists tend to show figures nearer 1%, while surveys quoted by gay activists tend to show figures nearer 10%, with a mean of 4-5% figure most often cited in mainstream media reports.

It is important to note, however, that these numbers are subject to many of the pitfalls inherent in researching sensitive social issues. It is possible that survey results may be biased by under-reporting, for instance. (See note 1.) The frequent use of non-random samples (white college students) in many studies could also serve to skew the data.

In general, most research agrees that the number of people who have had multiple same-gender sexual experiences is fewer than the number of people who have had a single such experience, and that the number of people who identify themselves as exclusively homosexual is fewer than the number of people who have had multiple homosexual experiences.

In addition, major historical shifts can occur in reports of the prevalence of homosexuality. For example, the Hamburg Institute for Sexual Research conducted a survey over the sexual behavior of young people in 1970, and repeated it in 1990. Whereas in 1970 18% of the boys aged 16 and 17 reported to have had same-sex sexual experiences, the number had dropped to 2% by 1990. [1] "Ever since homosexuality became publicly argued to be an innate sexual orientation, boys' fear of being seen as gay has, if anything, increased," the director of the institute, Volkmar Sigusch, suggested in a 1998 article for a German medical journal. [2]

In 2005, as part of the statistical and financial measurements required to implement the UK's new Civil Partnership Act, the British government's H.M. Treasury actuaries calculated that there are 3.6 million British people who may want to enter into a gay or lesbian civil partnership arrangement. This is equal to around 6 percent of the UK population.



I admitted that the 10% figure is skewed in my favor, will you admit the 1% you quoted is also equally ridiculous?

You're attempting to marginalize an entire segment of the population, how is the comparison to Fred Phelps not deserved?



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01 Dec 2008, 7:38 pm

i wouldnt be surpised if the number went up slightly. The last time i had researched was about 2000 or so. Our enviroment is absouletly filthly. Their are over a hundred thousand industrial chemicals in the enviroment, food supplies, and houselhold items wich mimic sex hormones and attack the reroductives systems of people and animals. their are male fish being borne with female sex organs and multitudes. little girls getting menses before the age of 10. My quarrel isnt realy with you or your homosexualist hohorts, its with people who are creating you.



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01 Dec 2008, 7:49 pm

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i wouldnt be surpised if the number went up slightly. The last time i had researched was about 2000 or so. Our enviroment is absouletly filthly. Their are over a hundred thousand industrial chemicals in the enviroment, food supplies, and houselhold items wich mimic sex hormones and attack the reroductives systems of people and animals. their are male fish being borne with female sex organs and multitudes. little girls getting menses before the age of 10. My quarrel isnt realy with you or your homosexualist hohorts, its with people who are creating you.


Well, dismissing us once we're already here isn't the way to go about it.

There have been homosexuals throughout history, and in some cultures bisexuality was considered normal (Greeks, just for one).

So, it's not entirely environmental.

Would I be surprised to find there was a environmental contributing factor?

Some of the studies I've read on the results of certain fertility drugs in the 50's-60's and their feminizing effect on XY fetuses alone are enough to make me admit there is probably a correlation.

If we ever reach the bottom, I'm sure we'll find not only multiple paths leading to different forms of queerness, but that both nature, nurture, and environmental variables will all play a part.

If I attacked, it's because I view any attack against the LGBTQ community to be a personal attack.