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23 Dec 2008, 1:16 pm

Ok, for s**ts and giggles, lets say god really did create humans, if homosexuality is such a bad thing, why did god include gender preferences during the development of the fetus?

Answer that Mr.Pope, oh wait, I forgot... rationality and consistency don't exist in his world.


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23 Dec 2008, 1:17 pm

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^ he doesn't just let them, he insists on it.

& to reiterate what everyone else has already said in this thread, who cares what the Pope thinks? it's not like he has any legitimate claim to be a moral authority.



many would disagree with you and wrong or not, the followers outnumber you.


if 6 billion people thought the world was flat, the world would still be roughly spherical. The sheer weight of numbers that agree with him doesn't make his claim to be a moral authority any more legitimate.


yeah and +90% of the world's population believing in a sentient deity as described by the more popular religions doesn't make one exist. it still doesn't change that they're going to believe in it.

facts have very little impact on most people.


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23 Dec 2008, 3:34 pm

This is why I hate religions.

It matters not that the majority of religious believers on this forum would disagree with the pope; he is the religious ruler of approximately 18% of the worlds population, and is not alone in his beliefs. Most evangelist and islamic rulers speak the same filthy rhetoric. To the moderate believers out there; you are foolish to think that the majority of religious people think the same way you do, they don't.

Most religious denominations are just a mouth piece for backward thinking, racist, homophobic, populist, judgemental a***holes. The world would be a far better place without them.

And before you crap on about the good religions do, there are many good charities that do not have religious ideologies


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23 Dec 2008, 3:48 pm

Let's do away with all religions, or at least outlaw those that have dogma against the "abomination" or "sin" of homosexuality. Never mind ... let's just outlaw any religion that defines any of the following as "abominations" or "sins":

    Abortion
    Adultery / Sex without marriage
    Anger
    Artistic Expression
    Atheism
    Beastiality
    Being a Jerk
    Cynicism
    Depression
    Desire ("Lust")
    Fun / Leisure ("Sloth")
    Gossip
    Homosexuality
    Idolatry
    Intolerance
    Lying / Slander
    Murder
    Other Religions
    Pedophilia
    Profit-making
    Scepticism
    Science
    Slavery
    Swearing
    Terrorism
    Theft
    Torture
There, have I left anything out?



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23 Dec 2008, 3:59 pm

I would agree with anyone who said terrorism, paedophilia, theft, slavery, torture and murder were abominations, whats your point fnord?


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23 Dec 2008, 4:02 pm

Pope Benedict XVI is a known step back in time for the Catholic Church from Pope John Paul II. Little else need be said (not that John Paul II was a fan of homosexuals either, but Benedict is much more hardline).



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23 Dec 2008, 4:04 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:
I would agree with anyone who said terrorism, paedophilia, theft, slavery, torture and murder were abominations, whats your point fnord?

That all of these are... Fun, and things that are fun are "abominations" to religions.


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23 Dec 2008, 4:18 pm

Orwell wrote:
I don't really care what any former Nazi has to say on theology or on relationships between consenting adults.


Honestly, I just don't care what any former Nazi has to say about anything.



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23 Dec 2008, 5:48 pm

I still think we should divert troops from Iraq to invade Vatican City, arrest this vile man and his co-conspirators for their aid in the abuse of children, and seize their wealth. How much starving children do you think a golden throne would feed?



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23 Dec 2008, 10:14 pm

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I still think we should divert troops from Iraq to invade Vatican City, arrest this vile man and his co-conspirators for their aid in the abuse of children, and seize their wealth. How much starving children do you think a golden throne would feed?


I dunno, I tried that once but they kept getting heavy metal poisoning.



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23 Dec 2008, 10:19 pm

Death_of_Pathos wrote:
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I still think we should divert troops from Iraq to invade Vatican City, arrest this vile man and his co-conspirators for their aid in the abuse of children, and seize their wealth. How much starving children do you think a golden throne would feed?


I dunno, I tried that once but they kept getting heavy metal poisoning.


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23 Dec 2008, 10:31 pm

ahem the church is loosing liberal members, conservative parish have static or increasing members



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23 Dec 2008, 10:38 pm

to paraphraze P.Z. Myers,
'A virgin man in a funny hat and a dress is lecturing us on proper gender roles!?'



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23 Dec 2008, 11:00 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:
This is why I hate religions.

It matters not that the majority of religious believers on this forum would disagree with the pope; he is the religious ruler of approximately 18% of the worlds population, and is not alone in his beliefs. Most evangelist and islamic rulers speak the same filthy rhetoric. To the moderate believers out there; you are foolish to think that the majority of religious people think the same way you do, they don't.

Most religious denominations are just a mouth piece for backward thinking, racist, homophobic, populist, judgemental a***holes. The world would be a far better place without them.

And before you crap on about the good religions do, there are many good charities that do not have religious ideologies

I know enough atheist homophobes and racists that I don't think those negative qualities can be attributed to the effect of religion. People are people, regardless of what they believe or profess to believe.


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23 Dec 2008, 11:18 pm

Orwell wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
This is why I hate religions.

It matters not that the majority of religious believers on this forum would disagree with the pope; he is the religious ruler of approximately 18% of the worlds population, and is not alone in his beliefs. Most evangelist and islamic rulers speak the same filthy rhetoric. To the moderate believers out there; you are foolish to think that the majority of religious people think the same way you do, they don't.

Most religious denominations are just a mouth piece for backward thinking, racist, homophobic, populist, judgemental a***holes. The world would be a far better place without them.

And before you crap on about the good religions do, there are many good charities that do not have religious ideologies

I know enough atheist homophobes and racists that I don't think those negative qualities can be attributed to the effect of religion. People are people, regardless of what they believe or profess to believe.


Now that I think about it I don't think I know any atheist homophobes. I think every atheist I've met is for gay rights. However, I have met atheist racists.



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24 Dec 2008, 2:13 am

Orwell wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
This is why I hate religions.

It matters not that the majority of religious believers on this forum would disagree with the pope; he is the religious ruler of approximately 18% of the worlds population, and is not alone in his beliefs. Most evangelist and islamic rulers speak the same filthy rhetoric. To the moderate believers out there; you are foolish to think that the majority of religious people think the same way you do, they don't.

Most religious denominations are just a mouth piece for backward thinking, racist, homophobic, populist, judgemental a***holes. The world would be a far better place without them.

And before you crap on about the good religions do, there are many good charities that do not have religious ideologies

I know enough atheist homophobes and racists that I don't think those negative qualities can be attributed to the effect of religion. People are people, regardless of what they believe or profess to believe.


Atheism can't lead to homophobia, though. It has no doctrine, dogma, or tenants. Most major forms of theism DO have these things and expressly state that homosexuality is evil. Atheist also can't lead to any particular action...like dragging a young man behind a pick up truck until his eyes pop out, for example. For that level of crazy, you need religion.