Conspiracy theory: do the global elites WANT mass autism?

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Well, I’m not familiar enough with pezar’s posts, but I’ll assume pezar’s first post was satire. It sounds like a good idea for a sci-fi novel. Anyway, IMO in the sense that the global elites seek the atomisation of society, pezar’s post would not be a million miles from the truth.

More specifically, what the global elites – or the western elites at least – want is a one world government, populated by atomised, acquiescent individuals undifferentiated by race, nationality or culture, content to be merely units of production and consumption, serving the interests of the elites while the elites monitor their every move. Standing in the elites’ way are the nation states of the West and the traditional family unit, so these are to be undermined via mass immigration, miscegenation, feminism, pop culture trash and endless propaganda about “diversity”, “tolerance” and “gay rights”. People swallow this propaganda and think they are “liberated”; they learn to love their servitude.

I'm not sure about autistics being more self-aware. I thought that autistics were supposed to be generally less self-aware than NTs; the difficulty autistics have with appreciating their own mental states ties in with the difficulties they have appreciating the mental states of others

Only 'poorly'

Several words come to mind, but then I don't want to get censored/banned so maybe I will just have to accept your extremely diplomatic choice of 'poorly'

Nope. I'd say it's brainstorming. It's saying, "think again." Which is what we do best. The one thing we know is that things are not as they seem. So let's toss it around and see what we get.

Well, I’m sure they would like a world population that is dysfunctional and easily lead. There’s a spark here, but it’s the NTs who are dysfunctional and easily lead. (More on them later) As for people on the Autistic spectrum, they are natural-born whistle-blowers. We can’t have that. Their management would be easier if they were dead.

The trouble is in rounding them up. Most of them are functioning well enough that they will never voluntarily seek a diagnosis. You’ve got to catch them while they’re babies and get their parents freaked out enough to allow “early intervention.” Break their minds while you can, and before they have a chance to cause trouble.

About ten years ago, we had a little girl in my daughter’s preschool playgroup who was severely delayed in learning to walk and talk. Looking back, I’m guessing that she was Autistic (no one seems to like to use that word). The local school district wanted the child in some program, ASAP. The mom was considering it. She was hesitant because she was also considering the fact that Grandma had home movies of the child’s father, who was doing exactly the same things at exactly the same age. He turned out to be a good husband, good father, and was highly successful in his field (supporting a stay-home mom). He simply did not have a problem. Even then, when I knew nothing about Asperger’s, it struck me as a no-brainer. If you want to know what to do with an unusual kid, go to someone who knows something about it for advice – in this case, Grandma. Whatever she did it, worked. (She probably did nothing.)

And the best “early intervention” of all is prevention, as in genocide. Don’t let anyone know that most of them are functioning just fine. Show only the horror stories, and hide the functional ones by legally forbidding their diagnosis. You’re functioning, therefore you can’t have it, by definition.

Then throw around a lot of NT bias, circular reasoning and blatant insanity.

None of which is true for the majority on the Autistic spectrum. Like I said, they throw around a lot of NT bias, circular reasoning and blatant insanity. The game is to break their little Autistic minds while they are young so that they are not a threat, and to make everyone believe that anything outside of the ordinary is evil and must be crushed.

Now you’re talking about NTs. Yes, I can explain. Gimme a minute.

That’s where the NTs are going. Thanks to the Covert Curriculum (public school brainwashing over the past century, which has steadily grown more intense in the past couple of decades) the job is almost done. They may talk about a few enlightened issues, but the main message is non-verbal. The main lesson the schools teach is uniformity and blind obedience. We are not allowed to call it “Fascism.” Pity the poor NT, they can’t resist. Those who learn the lesson best come back as teachers who don’t even know that they are fascists.

Ok, look back just a little further:
A couple of centuries ago, you had one man pushing a plough, breaking his back to support one family. Today you have one person sitting on a tractor, supporting thousands of families, leaving thousands of people with nothing better to do than to call me at dinner time, trying to persuade me to part with money I don’t have in exchange for goods and services that I don’t want, can’t use and that will not improve my quality of life.

Most people in the workforce today are already useless feeders in a system based on glorified welfare. The agrarian age is over, the industrial age is over, we are now in the BS age. They need to either do something very smart, very soon (feel free to hold your breath for that one), or they need to manage this population. As the past eight years have shown, most NTs are already mindless drones. It’s the Aspies who must be broken or killed.

The smart alternative will not come from the “elite.” They’re too busy raking in money, warmongering and lying to use their intelligence on real solutions.

The revolution can only come from us. We are not a disease, we are the cure.

I believe there is. I believe that they are already doing it, whether it is intentional or just through stupidity.

Forty years ago, we had laws AGAINST putting little kids in boot camp. The fascism was not allowed to start until around the third grade. What was once “a garden of children, each blossoming in his own unique way” is now a garden of little soldiers, and they want to start it earlier and earlier. Now, they’re pushing for universal preschool for NTs and “early intervention” for Aspies.

The openly stated propaganda doesn’t matter. The non-verbal lessons are what count. All else is bread and circuses. Just stay in line and all will be well. Resistance is futile and, worse than that, uncomfortable and unfascionable.

Your differences are punished, ridiculed and condemned in a way that prevents you from developing a Theory of Mind. Abuse and oppression makes you stupid.

Last edited by Tahitiii on 23 Jan 2009, 8:49 pm, edited 3 times in total.

I think it varies tbh, now i think about it I know a savant who has trouble understanding his own emotions. but on the other side ive met hfa/aspies that are very self aware. In regard to what you said about difficulty of autistics appreciating their mental state, ive never had that trouble but then again i was diagnosed young and my parents took it upon themselves to make sure i understand the situation so i guess i may have had a leg up there.

Still to claim that all autistics are less self aware is a tad silly, even if the majority were less self aware there would still be those who are. and then there's the ones who are self aware but may find it difficult to express themselves and communicate with those around them. Even if what you say is true, that most autistics are initially less self aware than their nt peers would not their tendencies to be more interested in their own "special interests" rather than the interests of the masses and their tendencies to notice small details be indicative of a high potential of self awareness?

I can understand small conspiracies. Sometimes a corporate executive will deceive their customers for their own profit. Sometimes a politician will go around the system and illegally order something done. But when it does happen the truth always comes out because of some whistle blower.

But I think a grand conspiracy is completely silly. They seem to have absolute power yet there has not been a single internal leak. All it takes is a single person with nothing to lose, or a foolproof method to remain anonymous, to call the whole thing out.

Nope. I'd say it's brainstorming. It's saying, "think again." Which is what we do best. The one thing we know is that things are not as they seem. So let's toss it around and see what we get.

Well, I’m sure they would like a world population that is “dysfunctional and easily lead.” There’s a spark here, but it’s the NTs who are dysfunctional and easily lead. (More on them later) As for people on the Autistic spectrum, they are natural-born whistle-blowers. We can’t have that. Their management would be easier if they were dead.

The trouble is in rounding them up. Most of them are functioning well enough that they will never voluntarily seek a diagnosis. You’ve got to catch them while they’re babies and get their parents freaked out enough to allow “early intervention.” Break their minds while you can, and before they have a chance to cause trouble.

About ten years ago, we had a little girl in my daughter’s preschool playgroup who was severely delayed in learning to walk and talk. Looking back, I’m guessing that she was Autistic (no one seems to like to use that word). The local school district wanted the child in some program, ASAP. The mom was considering it. She was hesitant because she was also considering the fact that Grandma had home movies of the child’s father, who was doing exactly the same things at exactly the same age. He turned out to be a good husband, good father, and was highly successful in his field (supporting a stay-home mom). He simply did not have a problem. Even then, when I knew nothing about Asperger’s, it struck me as a no-brainer. If you want to know what to do with an unusual kid, go to someone who knows something about it for advice – in this case, Grandma. Whatever she did it, worked. (She probably did nothing.)

And the best “early intervention” of all is prevention, as in genocide. Don’t let anyone know that most people on the specttum are functioning just fine. Show only the horror stories, and hide the functional ones by legally forbidding their diagnosis. You are functioning, therefore you can’t have it, by definition.

Then throw around a lot of NT bias, circular reasoning and blatant insanity. Otherwise known as “propaganda.”

NONE of which is true for the majority on the Autistic spectrum. Like I said, they throw around a lot of NT bias, circular reasoning and blatant insanity. The game is to break their little Autistic minds while they are young so that they are not a threat, and to make everyone believe that anything outside of the ordinary is evil and must be crushed.

Now you’re talking about NTs. Yes, I can explain. Gimme a minute.

That’s where the NTs are going. Thanks to the Covert Curriculum (public school brainwashing over the past century, which has steadily grown more intense in the past couple of decades) that job is almost done. They may talk about a few enlightened issues, but the main message is non-verbal. The main lesson the schools teach is uniformity and blind obedience. We are not allowed to call it “Fascism.” Pity the poor NT, they can’t resist. Those who learn the lesson best come back as teachers who don’t even know that they are fascists.

Ok, look back just a little further:
A couple of centuries ago, you had one man pushing a plough, breaking his back to support one family. Today you have one person sitting on a tractor, supporting thousands of families, leaving thousands of people with nothing better to do than to call me at dinner time, trying to persuade me to part with money I don’t have in exchange for goods and services that I don’t want, can’t use and that will not improve my quality of life.

Most people in the workforce today are already useless feeders in an elaborate system based on glorified welfare. The whole economy today based on hype and lies and corruption. The Agrarian age is over, the Industrial age is over, we are now a few decades into the BS age. They need to either do something very smart, very soon (feel free to hold your breath for that one), or they need to manage this population. As the past eight years have shown, most NTs are already mindless drones. And many Aspies are broken or marginalized. It’s the unidentified, functioning Aspies who must be broken or killed.

The smart alternative to the obvious problems in this world will not come from the “elite.” They’re too busy raking in money, warmongering, maintaining the status quo and lying to use their intelligence on real solutions.

The revolution can only come from us. We are not a disease, we are the cure.

I believe there is. I believe that they are already doing it, whether it is intentional or just through stupidity.

How to break a child’s mind: Forty years ago, we had laws AGAINST putting little kids in boot camp. The fascism was not allowed to start until around the third grade. What was once “a garden of children, each blossoming in his own unique way” is now a garden of little soldiers, and they want to start it earlier and earlier. Now, they’re pushing for universal preschool for NTs and “early intervention” for Aspies. Also hard at work at spreading this disease are pediatricians with their developmental charts, which dictate the correct time for every milestone. Anything out of the ordinary must be brought to the attention of authorities who can crush it.

No, actually, the openly stated propaganda doesn’t matter. The non-verbal lessons are what count. All else is bread and circuses. Just stay in line and all will be well. Resistance is futile and, worse than that, uncomfortable and unFASCionable.

Your differences are punished, ridiculed and condemned in a way that prevents you from developing a Theory of Mind. Abuse and oppression makes you stupid. (We have seen how literal slavery can destroy the brain for several generations.)

People blow their whistles all the time. By the thousands. Not just a "single internal leak," but a constant flood. But the media won't report it.

Christie Whitman lied about the air quality around the WTC during the first few days and weeks. We had workers with no masks at all, people pushing strollers around the neighborhood... Those people are now dying by the hundreds. Those rescue workers are losing their jobs because they are too sick to work, losing their health care benefits, and dying. It's still happening today. Their families are screaming, but the media won't report it.

The whistles are blowing all day, every day, and getting louder all the time. A very small number have died mysteriously. Most are ridiculed and ignored.

Mass conspiracies are what this country does best. If the truth would shatter your world, all you need to do is look away and pretend that you didn't see it.

Happy, happy, everyone is happy. I don't see a problem. Do you see a problem?

I agree with Tahitti on this.

"It's far easier to get the masses to believe a great big lie than a small one."
-Hitler

Autism wasn't an issue until after WWII.

I am now reading Tony Attwood's “The Complete Guide to Asperger’s Syndrome,” and I can't get through a page without saying, “Huh? What kind of convoluted, twisted-inside-out nonsense is that?” I got your Gordian knot right here, pal: The premise is flawed.

Ptolemy was the astronomer who, starting with a geocentric model, developed that convoluted mathematical system that accurately predicted the movement of planets and stars without letting go of the basic premise that the Earth was at the center.

As far as Asperger's is concerned, Attwood is a new Ptolemy. In his own, NT-biased way, he describes an outward appearance fairly well, but does not seem to have talked to a real-live Aspie. What we need is a new Copernicus.

When our dog chases a squirrel, it eventually runs to a tree and vanishes into the third dimension. It's magic. These are mysterious forces at work that are beyond his comprehension. All he sees is the ground and all he knows is that the squirrel is not behaving in a way that is convenient for the dog. While I am quite fond of the dog, I can still see the situation from squirrel’s point of view. (It’s that old Theory of Mind that they don’t want us to have.)

The Psychology of Asperger's could be simplified. It could be accepted as a valid, alternative experience. I'm not talking about patting the kid on the head and saying transparent, stupid to things in an attempt to build the kid’s self-esteem on lies. I'm talking really. Look up. The squirrel is still there. Really. Seriously. Take a brake from the ridicule, the excuses, the egos, the lies, the punishments, the power games and look up. It's right there. Which part don't you get?

If you can't accept the premise, then none of the trivial details we discuss will lead to anything useful.

I'm a canary in a coal mine and the treatment for me is simple: get me out of the coal mine and I'll be fine. Keep the drugs, excuses and convoluted adaptations. And acknowledge that fascism hurts everyone. I don't want to be a field hand or a house slave or a master. I want to abolish the system entirely. Acknowledge that, as a basic value, fascism is bad. And Asperger's would be good for most of us if they would just let the good parts bloom. The fascism is just a crazy compulsion that everyone is caught up in and never questions, even though it serves no purpose.

Even the guy at the top is hurt by it when it's allowed to go to wild. But "killing the golden goose" is another story.

Tahitiii, please be careful to parse your quotes so as not to attribute someone else's comments to me.

This is a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Why do so many have the assumption that there has to be some shadow council working against civilization. Conspiracy theories are a truly unique and interesting sociological phenomenon.

The term was poorly named and a good example of bias. I think it comes from Lorna Wing.

What it means, verses strong central coherence, is not a bad thing. A better way to put it would be developed central coherence with ASD featuring an undeveloped one. Meaning that we are not locked in to instinctual meanings for events and situations.

Scratch that. I'd call it a bias coherence for NTs and unbiased for ASD people. But an NT would never call themselves biased. Because they are.

The terms weak and strong should not be taken in a traditional sense, but rather how strongly tuned a person is to cultural and social mindsets.

Aspies are able to make these amazing connections because they are not expecting a certain result.

Weak central coherence makes good scientists. It is something that NT scientists strive for. They have to shed their bias; guard against it.

Sorry. I fixed it.
I think my executive function was having a bad day.
(I new I shouldn't have had that lobotomy.)

I see what you're saying. Same difference. I have this silly obsession with objective reality.
If your reality is based on Santa Clause, we are going to have a communication failure.
Which will, of course, be my fault.