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14 Mar 2009, 11:38 pm

I communicate with dead people sometimes, although the communication only goes one way.



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14 Mar 2009, 11:38 pm

Henriksson wrote:
"Faith Based" discussion? What kind of discussion is that?


A religious one.



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14 Mar 2009, 11:39 pm

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I communicate with dead people sometimes, although the communication only goes one way.


Can you explain this in more detail?



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14 Mar 2009, 11:40 pm

just-me wrote:
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"Faith Based" discussion? What kind of discussion is that?


A religious one.

Ah. One of my favourite kind of discussions. :D


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14 Mar 2009, 11:42 pm

Well it's not particularly glamorous and largely relies on their having left writings behind and my having access to them through text media.

Anyone reading this has the same talent, but I did not have a more interesting one :cry: .



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14 Mar 2009, 11:59 pm

Back on topic.

Does anyone here any psychic ability's ?

If so what are they?



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15 Mar 2009, 12:21 am

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I have no evidence and no proof. I didn't make this thread to make people believe. Only to compare and share my experiences with other members.

I feel no need to justify myself. But your welcome to list anything that you've done in regards to the paranormal.


Just-me, you are a great person, and this is a very harsh forum to post in. When you post in this forum you have to be ready for people to question everything you say, even if you dont want it. So people are going to question no matter what.
Anyway, I dont care what people think of me, so I will jump in and tell everyone that dead people communicate with me. I am not religious and I try to follow this from a scientific standpoint. The only way I can make people believe is to have the dead communicate with them. While ghost hunting, it is something I feel, and see. If you where to see objects moving around a room, or things being thrown, or unexplained things happening, I think people wouldnt second guess them self what they seen. I have been to some of the most "haunted" places in america, and can prove it to myself and maybe some lucky people with me. Unfortantly, you take a video, pic, recording, whatever and people just say it is fake. It is only something that the people who have experienced truly believe. Everyone can laugh at me, it dont care what they think.



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15 Mar 2009, 12:42 am

roadracer wrote:
Just-me, you are a great person, and this is a very harsh forum to post in. When you post in this forum you have to be ready for people to question everything you say, even if you dont want it. So people are going to question no matter what.


Thank you for the heads up. I knew I would probably have opposition but I figured once I got through all that I could have a discussion instead of a debate.

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Anyway, I dont care what people think of me, so I will jump in and tell everyone that dead people communicate with me. I am not religious and I try to follow this from a scientific standpoint. The only way I can make people believe is to have the dead communicate with them. While ghost hunting, it is something I feel, and see. If you where to see objects moving around a room, or things being thrown, or unexplained things happening, I think people wouldnt second guess them self what they seen. I have been to some of the most "haunted" places in america, and can prove it to myself and maybe some lucky people with me. Unfortantly, you take a video, pic, recording, whatever and people just say it is fake. It is only something that the people who have experienced truly believe. Everyone can laugh at me, it dont care what they think.


Do you actually see the ghost's with your eyes or do you sense them?

I remember once I was alone in my parents house. I looked up and the door nob turned and the door opened. I freaked out! This was the second time it had happened so I searched the house and no one was home.
I was terrified.

later I was able to see ghosts too.
Its an ability I can turn off and on so I don't use it much.
My parents house has this middle age guy with Grey balding hair. He is usually drinking coffee or sitting on the back porch.

I later found out a woman's husband died in that house and that's why the people soled the house to us. 8O



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15 Mar 2009, 12:44 am

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Do you remember when you were very young ? Do you ever remember thinking in thoughts and not words? Well that's how animals communicate.


Yeah, I know what you are talking about. It's like communicating through impressions. It's very fast and subtle. I've learned more from nature than from books.

For anyone who refuses to believe in psychic ability, yet are interested in evidence, Dean Radin wrote a research book on psi called Entangled Minds. My intuition tells me that none of the scoffers will actually read it though. :roll:

Sigmund Freud started out as a scoffer. He wrote a paper on the "silly superstitions" of psi early in his career. However, by the end of it, he could no longer deny this phenomenon. He wrote to Carl Jung (who was also a firm believer in psi) that he could no longer deny the evidence that he witnessed over the years. Also, Albert Einstein turned from scoffer to believer after his friend Upton Sinclair, who also was a scoffer until his wife convinced him of her psychic abilities which made him write Mental Radio which Albert Einstein read and caused him to question it more, which later led to him becoming a believer in psi.

Anyways...I could go on and on with examples of scoffers turned to believers, but maybe you should just read Dean Radin's Entangled Minds. He points out an interesting fact about the taboo of psi in the scientific community. Or, check out Upton Sinclair's Mental Radio book.

It's just pseudo scientific biases that reject psi too quickly.


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15 Mar 2009, 1:01 am

I must confess I don't read much so could you give me a brief summery of Upton Sinclair's Mental Radio book?

What sort of things does it talk about?

If its not to long or on a free e book I may read it though.
It sounds interesting!



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15 Mar 2009, 1:04 am

Here is a synopsis of the book Mental Radio.

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...I don't like to believe in telepathy, because I don't know what to make of it... and I would a whole lot rather give all my time to my muckraking...I don't expect to sell especially large quantities of this book... In short, there isn't a thing in the world that leads me to this act, except the conviction which has been forced upon me that telepathy is real...--p. 229

Upton Sinclair took a gamble publishing this book. A lifelong Socialist who ran for high office several times, a muckraking author who had exposed the abuses of capitalism, was dabbling with what was seen as the occult. The impetus for this was his dear wife, Mary Craig Sinclair, known as 'Craig,' who had been aware all her life that she could sense things that had not yet happened, or which she had no rational access to. In the late 1920s, this came to light when Craig had an odd feeling that their friend Jack London was in mental turmoil, just prior to London's suicide. The Sinclairs started to investigate how deep this particular rabbit hole went...

The core of this book is a series of doodles which Upton and others made outside Craig's presence, which she was able to duplicate, apparently telepathically or through clairvoyance. Sinclair claims that Craig had over a 75% success rate over 290 tests, including 25% matches, and 50% partial matches. This success rate is obviously a lot higher than probability, considering that the potential set of drawings is a lot larger than, say, a deck of cards.

Sinclair's top reputation as a 'speaker of truth to power' was actually a compelling reason to take this book seriously. The response to Mental Radio was very positive, impressing academics in the field of psychology and other scientists, including Albert Einstein, who wrote the introduction to the German edition. William McDougal, Chair of the Psychology Department at Duke University, who wrote the introduction for this edition, conducted his own experiments with Craig. McDougal and J.B. Rhine later went on to found the Parapsychology Laboratory at Duke, which conducted the first academic investigations of ESP. Walter Franklin Price, founder of the Boston Society for Psychical Research, asked the Sinclairs if he could analyze their research notes. In April 1932, Price published an analysis of the Sinclair experiments in the Society's Bulletin in which he concluded that the data could not be explained by coincidence or fraud.

Production notes: In order to effectively display the large number of images in this book, I've embedded the images in each file, rather than thumbnailing them as usual. This is possible because these images are monochrome line drawings and smaller than an equivalent grey-scale file. However, be aware that some of these chapters may take awhile to load on a slow Internet connection.--J.B. Hare, May 15, 2008.


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15 Mar 2009, 1:05 am

Some of the descriptions posted here appear to be delusions to one, such as myself, whose whole experiences record no paranormal effects and who finds scientific explanations are quite adequate for everything I have experienced. The field of paranormality is replete with fakery and with people with psychological problems and challenges such as that put out by James Randi have never been successfully accepted. Nevertheless science has frequently had to make major changes in its paradigms and phenomena, such as entangled particles, indicate there is much in the universe that is still poorly understood. People of good intelligence frequently indicate a belief in religious dogma that has no basis in current understanding and time itself which presents each of us with a sense of being in a present moment which continuously changes is frequently relegated to delusion by science even though this is the hardest reality to each of us. I am extremely suspicious of accounts of paranormal phenomena, as I am by accounts of flying saucers but there is always the very slim chance that something I can accept as real has occurred and that almost negligible possibility I always leave open.



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15 Mar 2009, 1:09 am

Whatever Sand...Einstein, Sinclair, Jung, and Freud are all part of this sect of lower intelligent/delusional people right? I'm sure. :roll:


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15 Mar 2009, 1:36 am

It sounds like an excellent book Magnus ! !!

Thank you for posting that excerpt from it!



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15 Mar 2009, 1:57 am

Magnus wrote:
Whatever Sand...Einstein, Sinclair, Jung, and Freud are all part of this sect of lower intelligent/delusional people right? I'm sure. :roll:


You didn't mention Conan Doyle or the Pope or Newton or all sorts of very bright people throughout history with extremely peculiar ideas. Where did I say they were of lower intellect? It seems to me I mentioned they were extraordinarily intelligent but a bit on the wacky side.



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15 Mar 2009, 2:16 am

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Some of the descriptions posted here appear to be delusions to one, such as myself, whose whole experiences record no paranormal effects and who finds scientific explanations are quite adequate for everything I have experienced. The field of paranormality is replete with fakery and with people with psychological problems and challenges such as that put out by James Randi have never been successfully accepted. Nevertheless science has frequently had to make major changes in its paradigms and phenomena, such as entangled particles, indicate there is much in the universe that is still poorly understood. People of good intelligence frequently indicate a belief in religious dogma that has no basis in current understanding and time itself which presents each of us with a sense of being in a present moment which continuously changes is frequently relegated to delusion by science even though this is the hardest reality to each of us. I am extremely suspicious of accounts of paranormal phenomena, as I am by accounts of flying saucers but there is always the very slim chance that something I can accept as real has occurred and that almost negligible possibility I always leave open.


I would expect most people who have never experienced a paranormal phenomena would think this way. It is the logical way of thinking. There is no way I could make anyone on a forum believe me, but like you said, there are so many things that cant be explained, because science has not got that far, or there is no way to run a solid test. I do not have any "psychological problems" as you say, but I am also aware that there are plenty of people who have that problem. I have had total non believers with me before that seen the same things I did and now believe. I have seen things that you can not attribute to some kind of illusion or something. Like a door knob turning and the door opening, or a cabinet being unlocked and opened, when no one else is there. It makes me second guess myself, like checking to make sure there is not some kind of trick going on. There has never been any elaborate smoke and mirrors, or someone playing a prank on me, I am sure of that. I could go on and on telling stories but it wont do any help, because this is something you have to experience to believe.

Just-me, I have seen and heard them before, but I usually sense them, and when I sense them there seem to be some sort of communication going on that I cant describe, like they are communicating to me threw my feelings, like if they don't want me there or if everything is okay, or trying to tell me something. Then there are the obvius things like doors open and shutting, locks, door knobs, stuff sliding, breaking, being thrown, ect.