and the next stage in human evolution is....

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Because that decision tramples over the rights of the baby. Also you can't unkill the dead baby.

The gene changes would not, since they would be fully reversable (they aren't know but may very well be in the future). So it's not an issue, since the baby can undo the decision later.

If the genetic changes were NOT reversible then it may be a different story... in that case I think it would depend greatly on the exact situation.

If we just "naturally" evolve, i think we'd probably look more like a dead end than anything - unchanged after millions of years (assuming we manage to survive for that long).

You're right that it'd happen too slowly for any serious changes to be noticed at once. But I'm arguing that humans have the ability to control (or at the very least augment) the process of evolution, thanks to technology. Which will cause evolutiont to speed up greatly.



That might be the next step in evolution. Mind uploading. Hmm. Not really evolution in the classical biological/genetic sense though......but it fits the general definition of evolution...



Um....any changes we have would still have to remain within the laws of physics...

Surprised no-one else has said it yet so i will have to bite. It's me!

That's a point well put.

So here the state would trample on the parent's rights in its desire to maintain the rights of the baby. The sacrifice issue may make that relatively easy, though some frameworks would insist on the priority of the spiritual world over the secular. Run that again with an education agenda and it is perhaps not so clear.

I've never really bought into "rights", at least as a source of absolutes: too much conflict and hierarchy-sorting, as well as difficulties with the unenforcable and the unrestorable. But that's not principally an evolution issue.

Evolution appears basically amoral. The survivors are right because they are the survivors, whether they got there by cooperation or ruthless aggression.

There is no next stage of human evolution this is it. If We ever to evolve We well not see it.

Ladies and gentlemen may i introduce;

ME!

we will all have wings.....

the next stage in evolution is a new level we had not previously imagined(well probably somebody realized it a long time ago). We will control our evolution. Which we may do well or poorly. The better we do it reflects our survivability as a species. Theoretically if we decline to alter ourselves strategically we may not survive against a species which does alter itself.

Nevermind, i just realized the nazi's were doing that. I wasn't thinking in terms of humans versus humans, i was thinking humans versus alien sentients. But the point still applies. One group of humans may gain an upper hand on other humans from superior genetic medling.

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Duh, it's cyborgs with swiss army knives for hands and mini-canoes for feet.

Uh, hello, it me!

refute it i dare you.

If you were that highly evolved then youd have thought of saying it's me first. As you waited for Alpha male to think up of the funny pun that makes it far more likely im winning the human race. IM THE NEXT PAGE FOR HUMAN EVOLUTION MORAN, mmmkay?

If we come to a point where we've erradicted diseases (i.e., those which cause death or tend to prevent reproduction), we're going to come to a point where the masses will have to question their own moral standards when the human population just keeps growing and growing and growing and growing. And society will have to do something about it. Something which can't be swept under the carpet.

That is, if this occurs before we can find additional planets with proper resources to sustain our life.

Ork?

"Soylent Green is people!"

Couldn't find a definition for soylent.

Soylent= an innocent combination of Soya/Lentil
And so you are supposed to think.

"when the human population just keeps growing and growing and growing and growing... ...then we're heading for a Malthusian disaster. Not enough food, for just one problem.

The film Soylent Green depicts the possibility that a desperate government will secretly feed the populace its own dead.