If Atheism is a religion...

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it does give you wisdom though (at least in my case! haha! {just messing around, I'm not an ageist in any way})



you could check all garages in terms of dragons living in them (at least in theory). where would you "check" to see if there is a God? any God? (ok apart from Zeus, that would be too easy )

anyway I don't know why we are arguing as in essence I agree with you- atheism can't be called a religion. but I consider myself agnostic and I think that the difference between me and an atheist is that for me the only way to dismiss a theory is actual physical evidence to the contrary. an atheist believes in something (i.e. nonexistence of something), I believe in nothing (=only acknowledge things that actually exist).

Well, so do I.

Named religions describe what set of beliefs people as a group believe in spiritually.
When asked, what you believe in spiritually, you answer you are an atheist and don't believe anything.
Therefore, your religious group is atheist, and your religion is atheism.

no, it's the same as putting "n/a". how can that be religion? where there is no belief, there is no religion.

The group of people who have the same lack of belief in religion for thier spirituality is not called "not applicable" or "none". Their group has a name - Atheist.
Because of this logic, the US courts says it is a religion. "When a person sincerely holds beliefs dealing with issues of "ultimate concern" that for them occupy a "place parallel to that filled by God in traditionally religious persons," those beliefs represent their religion."
http://altlaw.org/v1/cases/1136642

For me, claiming that there absolutely is no god is just as intellectually flawed as saying their absolutely is.

Dawkins is a genius, but he's also kind of a prick. The reason we don't "go all the way" is because to do so, we'd have to deny the very reason we became agnostic in the first place, the intangibility of theistic knowledge.

Not even Dawkins say there is absolutely no god, so your reasoning is flawed.

Well, it may seem like I made that connection, but I that's just my inefficient writing style. I did not mean to assert that Dawkins has said "there absolutely is no god", but that is the atheistic position. If you don't "absolutely" think there is no god, and just think there is "probably" no god, you might just be agnostic.

I'm both agnostic and atheistic.

black IS a color. i can see it, can't i? what defines a color? does it HAVE to be red, yellow green or blue or related to any of those?
what about organisms with the ability to see more colors, are they uncolors?

the way i understand it, a color is the organic meat lump called "eye" and "brain"'s coordinated interpretation of the wavelength of light reflected off a surface. is black an exception to this rule?

transparent is not a color, but in my opinion, black, gray and white are all colors.

The point was that black is the lack of all the other colours, so it isn't a colour in the strictly scientific sense, even though an artist would probably say black is a colour.

Technically black is not a colour because it is the absence of colour. If you are in a dark room with no light there is only black. White on the other hand is all colours hence is not a specific colour. Shine white light through a prism and it splits into all the colours of the rainbow.

I've heard a number of people make this claim, and state that the two are not mutually exclusive. I don't currently hold the position that they are mutually exclusive, but I have to admit it's difficult for me to see how they could not be. If you'd like to enlighten me, I would appreciate that.

Atheism is the lack of belief.

Agnosticism is the lack of knowledge.

I don't claim to be absolutely knowing of all things in the world, so I'm an agnostic. And I don't believe in god so I'm atheistic. There might be a god, presumably called His Supreme Indifference, because he is really good at hiding.

claiming agnosticism because you dont know _everything in the world_ is probably stretching the definition of agnosticism.
i am an atheist, despite not knowing how a jetfighter engine works

i think its defined by religious certainty. i _know_ there is no god. i am 100% sure of it.

So, hypothetically speaking, if someone had never been exposed to the concept of God, would they be an atheist? However, in that case atheism could not be called a "religion" since they have no idea that religions exist and have neither belief or disbelief. Similarly they would not be agnostic. Perhaps they would be an untheist?