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01 May 2009, 6:51 am

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Why does God give someone a condition like aspergers and then when they screw up hold them at fault for making "judgements" and being bitter?


Because he too has aspergers.


Yes that is true god made man in his own image.


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01 May 2009, 9:31 am

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Why does God give someone a condition like aspergers and then when they screw up hold them at fault for making "judgements" and being bitter?


Religion is a means of control that was invented back in the days to control people who were afraid of things they do not understand. Over the two following millennias, they had control over freedom of speech and oppressed any one individual or nation that tried to develop itself away from this non-evolving form of government.

Anything could be done in the name of religion, war, slaughter, genocide, destruction of sciense, oppression of the free word.

So, Is there a god? No. Is religion a fascist control mechanism designed to keep "the elite" in power? Yes.

Personally, i think that now that homosexuality has been taken out of the DSM-IV, there is a free slot for Religion to be put in there. It is easy to diagnose and there is plenty of cures available for religion, like Education, Science, Knowledge and Freedom of speech.


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01 May 2009, 10:13 am

If God made man in his own image, there would be no women...
No women means no genitalia to reproduce with..
Not really a man then ?

Why is there no mention of the Jurassic period in the bible? Was it seen as too brash, or not required?



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01 May 2009, 11:31 am

IS there a God? Define God.



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01 May 2009, 11:50 am

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I think the whole "the result of everything bad and evil in the world is caused by sin" is an especially difficult concept for aspies to grasp... I still have problems with it.


It's hard to grasp because it quite obviously isn't true. Bad things happen to good people all the time. There has to be some sort of more complicated reason, if there is a reason at all.



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01 May 2009, 11:51 am

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because he is a jackass (= his ways are mysterious)

this means, god is a completely unpredictable nutcase. thats what it means, to BE mysterious.
it means you act in complete randomness. isnt that neat?

i wonder why christians pray, when they know (and preach) that god is completely random as hell and unpredictable. its not like earthquakes and volcanoes are the exceptions of god, he throws them in for a laugh, or maybe he just tilted the tornado-table while cleaning up his study "oh darn!"

No. Volcanoes, and any other bad thing are all the cause of sin...

I do not know much about praying because I am not a Christian. But most pray to ask for forgiveness, to get guidance, etc. I need to look up more on the whole "why pray for people" part.


hah, sin!?

then why havent i been struck by a volcano or earthquake?

I KNOW!! !
CUS I LIVE TOO FAR AWAY FROM A CONTINENTAL SHELF! i live outside earthquake danger. i also live outside tornado danger. in fact, i live outside ALL natural disaster danger. i live in the safest country on earth, and BELIEVE me, i throw some sinning around.

so.
why do i watch people die in earthquakes, in turkey, while i am safe myself?
dont say sin :)


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01 May 2009, 12:22 pm

okay, if it is a result of sin, then why did the pope get shot? answer, sin is subjective.

Also, if jesus died for my sins, then I should have carte blanche to do as I please now. Second, God is a douche nozzle, he allows bad things to happen to his flock and does not a thing to stop it. A toddler gets raped to death, tell me, what sin had the child commited?


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01 May 2009, 1:29 pm

ZEGH8578 wrote:
buryuntime wrote:
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because he is a jackass (= his ways are mysterious)

this means, god is a completely unpredictable nutcase. thats what it means, to BE mysterious.
it means you act in complete randomness. isnt that neat?

i wonder why christians pray, when they know (and preach) that god is completely random as hell and unpredictable. its not like earthquakes and volcanoes are the exceptions of god, he throws them in for a laugh, or maybe he just tilted the tornado-table while cleaning up his study "oh darn!"

No. Volcanoes, and any other bad thing are all the cause of sin...

I do not know much about praying because I am not a Christian. But most pray to ask for forgiveness, to get guidance, etc. I need to look up more on the whole "why pray for people" part.


hah, sin!?

then why havent i been struck by a volcano or earthquake?

I KNOW!! !
CUS I LIVE TOO FAR AWAY FROM A CONTINENTAL SHELF! i live outside earthquake danger. i also live outside tornado danger. in fact, i live outside ALL natural disaster danger. i live in the safest country on earth, and BELIEVE me, i throw some sinning around.

so.
why do i watch people die in earthquakes, in turkey, while i am safe myself?
dont say sin :)

While god really wants to punish us sinful atheists, his aim is really bad, so instead the more faithful of his followers get struck. :wink:


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01 May 2009, 1:34 pm

If we found creatures in space with powers comparable to ancient polytheistic deities, would they count as gods?



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01 May 2009, 1:39 pm

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If we found creatures in space with powers comparable to ancient polytheistic deities, would they count as gods?

Yeah, why not? Inperfect gods are far more believeable than perfect ones, after all.


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01 May 2009, 1:43 pm

Henriksson wrote:
While god really wants to punish us sinful atheists, his aim is really bad, so instead the more faithful of his followers get struck. :wink:


god's just repeating the whole Job thing, it really fascinates him, to punish those who worship him the most, in order to see if theyll still believe in him.

whats the point in punishing atheists? we knever know its a work of god, theres no point. a lightning bolt strikes my head, and i yell curses at the clouds, and not much else :D

(and oh i have yelled curses at the weather)


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01 May 2009, 1:44 pm

Henriksson wrote:
Yeah, why not? Inperfect gods are far more believeable than perfect ones, after all.


Sweet!

I was also wondering, since some people worshipped the sun, does the sun count as a god?



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01 May 2009, 1:49 pm

McTell wrote:
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Yeah, why not? Inperfect gods are far more believeable than perfect ones, after all.


Sweet!

I was also wondering, since some people worshipped the sun, does the sun count as a god?


hint, if you rewind most religions back far enough, the sun IS god, in most cases :]
which makes sense, if you think about it.
jesus, dead, and up again.
sun, goes down, and up again. hehe :)


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01 May 2009, 1:53 pm

ZEGH8578 wrote:
McTell wrote:
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Yeah, why not? Inperfect gods are far more believeable than perfect ones, after all.


Sweet!

I was also wondering, since some people worshipped the sun, does the sun count as a god?


hint, if you rewind most religions back far enough, the sun IS god, in most cases :]


Yep.

:idea:

And, we know the sun exists.

If the Sun is a god, and the sun exists, then a god exists.

Excellent. I can see absolutely no way this argument I have put forward can be wrong. No way at all. So, I guess that wraps up this thread: a god does exist, and it was the Sun all along.



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01 May 2009, 2:03 pm

McTell wrote:
ZEGH8578 wrote:
McTell wrote:
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Yeah, why not? Inperfect gods are far more believeable than perfect ones, after all.


Sweet!

I was also wondering, since some people worshipped the sun, does the sun count as a god?


hint, if you rewind most religions back far enough, the sun IS god, in most cases :]


Yep.

:idea:

And, we know the sun exists.

If the Sun is a god, and the sun exists, then a god exists.

Excellent. I can see absolutely no way this argument I have put forward can be wrong. No way at all. So, I guess that wraps up this thread: a god does exist, and it was the Sun all along.


phew!
glad we could sort this out!

it took some time, but it was worth it! better call around, and let everybody know!
its gonna be nice to never have wars again :]


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01 May 2009, 2:07 pm

ZEGH8578 wrote:
McTell wrote:
ZEGH8578 wrote:
McTell wrote:
Henriksson wrote:
Yeah, why not? Inperfect gods are far more believeable than perfect ones, after all.


Sweet!

I was also wondering, since some people worshipped the sun, does the sun count as a god?


hint, if you rewind most religions back far enough, the sun IS god, in most cases :]


Yep.

:idea:

And, we know the sun exists.

If the Sun is a god, and the sun exists, then a god exists.

Excellent. I can see absolutely no way this argument I have put forward can be wrong. No way at all. So, I guess that wraps up this thread: a god does exist, and it was the Sun all along.


phew!
glad we could sort this out!

it took some time, but it was worth it! better call around, and let everybody know!
its gonna be nice to never have wars again :]


Damn right. I think everyone in this thread deserves a pat on the back. High fives all round! :cheers: