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Make marijuana legal
No, it is the flower of satan. 5%  5%  [ 9 ]
No, it is the flower of satan. 5%  5%  [ 9 ]
Yes, but limited like cigarettes, and taxed like hell 19%  19%  [ 36 ]
Yes, but limited like cigarettes, and taxed like hell 19%  19%  [ 36 ]
No, what would the poor innercity kids do for money 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
No, what would the poor innercity kids do for money 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Yes, liiike totally, Dude. Right on. "Free Mary Jane." 24%  24%  [ 47 ]
Yes, liiike totally, Dude. Right on. "Free Mary Jane." 24%  24%  [ 47 ]
Don't know, dont care. let me take care of my munchies and cotton mouth, i will get back to ya. 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Don't know, dont care. let me take care of my munchies and cotton mouth, i will get back to ya. 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
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18 Feb 2006, 12:29 am

A lot of the resistance is actually malicious. This is a really bad situation for someone to be in when he is an honest person who thinks of arguments as a place to use facts and persuasive arguments based on facts. The motives of the people who perpetuate the prohibition of marijuana are not honest, they are violent, and they won't be persuaded by facts. They will abuse facts. They will take advantage of your honesty when you don't know and admit it, and they will knowingly lie and keep with the program whether you caught them in a lie or not.

This is the kind of thing that has changed my life from a life to a battleground.



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18 Feb 2006, 6:45 pm

I have a friend who wrote a paper for college on Harry Anslinger. He was able to get access to Anslinger's papers, which are being kept at Penn State. He found out some amazing stuff. But anyone who reads Jack Herer's book The Emperor Wears No Clothes will find plenty of howlers. (http://www.jackherer.com) It's just as good as watching Reefer Madness (the original--the musical is pretty funny, too, but intentionally).

My all time favorites:

"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."

And then, a few years later:

"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing."

These two were so good I had to repeat them--thanks, Remnant!

And finally (paraphrased from memory):

"If the dread monster Frankenstein were to be shown a marihuana cigarette, he would expire immediately from fright."

Further, deponent sayeth not.



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18 Feb 2006, 7:38 pm

Don't knock it, Wandrew. Anslinger earned himself quite a job with prestige, power, wealth, his choice of underage prostitutes, and so on.



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19 Feb 2006, 9:53 pm

Remnant wrote:
Don't knock it, Wandrew. Anslinger earned himself quite a job with prestige, power, wealth, his choice of underage prostitutes, and so on.


And died virtually forgotten at age 83 with diabetes and major organ failure. Of course, Yul Brynner died of lung cancer and *he* didn't live like a librarian. :wink:



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19 Feb 2006, 11:51 pm

In other words, the man caused major damage to society and the ideals of freedom and he died in bed at a ripe old age, having lived past the age when many men are done with life.

The spit that needs to be spat on his grave would raise the level of the oceans by at least ten feet.



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20 Feb 2006, 3:30 pm

So thats why pop music is so bad nowdays.
None of the big names are using drugs! :lol:


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11 Mar 2006, 11:53 pm

it used to be sex, drugs and rock n' roll.

now its whine, plastic surgery and PC BS.


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13 Mar 2006, 7:38 pm

I think people should be free to do what the want as long as they don't hurt or exploit another person.



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14 Mar 2006, 4:59 am

Regulate it the same way alcohol is regulated... Limit it to people over the age of majority, add an appropriate tax, and deal with "driving under the influence" the same as for alcohol. But also allow "home brewing" for personal use.



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15 Mar 2006, 5:32 pm

If M.J was legalized there would be more available and more kids would have more access.

It's a medicine if prescribed as so.

Why not legalized all prescription drugs for over the counter use? Reason not to do so is that the wiser of society realize there would be more abusers of prescription grade medicines. That's why doctors exists, to prescribe as they were educated to do, that is the law as well.

Fundamentally the argument (debate) is, should there be limits to freedom? IF so, under what circumstances aside from the obvious of harming another person deem it necessary to make something against the law?

M.J of course does not make someone violent like other drugs can, just the opposite correct?



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15 Mar 2006, 9:19 pm

I've never heard anything credible on MJ being more harmful than Tobacco, and I've heard quite the opposite. I personally don't think people should smoke the stuff if they don't need it for medical purposes, but they should be able to. I just say we legalize it and tax the hell out of it. (To the point it costs as much as it costs on the streets now)

And putting laws against driving while under the influence of such drugs would be necessary. Of course we would want to allow people to grow their own, similar to how people are allowed to grow their own vegetables. (You have to have a liscense to grow tobacco, and only big companies, the ones that put all those chemicals in the cigarettes, get the liscenses.)



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17 Mar 2006, 1:57 am

JOKE

The future of cyber profiling

Random Puff: The government is now able to profile with near accuracy the psychological profile of anyone that moderately uses the internet. By using search and web histories with advanced profiling technologies in cyber profiling software without the needed manpower.

Persons are categorized and if meeting certain specific patterns they are placed on priority lists.

Well hell, the government created the internet in the first place, the duality has always existed. First it was God now it’s the government that’s all knowing.
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Anti-M.J over the counter activist: Psychotic insane loony.

Pro-Med-Pot Activist: M.J is where all the conspiracy writers get there ideas.

Government: that’s why we want to keep it illegal. They usually talk about seeing UFO's and aliens.



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21 Mar 2006, 11:08 pm

I believe that it should be legalized, but only for Medical purposes.



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21 Mar 2006, 11:15 pm

pot for casual use. medicinal use is nice too...but i think there's no reason why it shouldn't be legal for casual use other than people's mental blocks.



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27 Mar 2006, 3:25 am

sc wrote:
If M.J was legalized there would be more available and more kids would have more access.

It's a medicine if prescribed as so.

Why not legalized all prescription drugs for over the counter use? Reason not to do so is that the wiser of society realize there would be more abusers of prescription grade medicines. That's why doctors exists, to prescribe as they were educated to do, that is the law as well.

Fundamentally the argument (debate) is, should there be limits to freedom? IF so, under what circumstances aside from the obvious of harming another person deem it necessary to make something against the law?

M.J of course does not make someone violent like other drugs can, just the opposite correct?


I agree, why not legalize all prescription drugs?
If someone wants to abuse themself by eating toxic waste, then why not let them?
There should be an age limit of course (ID or doctors note)
Prescription does not work anyway, it is really easy to get a prescription.
If a doctor signs something...

I am all for them making everything birth control related to be non-prescription.


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27 Mar 2006, 3:47 am

I believe there is an ethical dilemma, we can't let people simply destroy themselves, then because of that right having the tax payers pay the bill.

Smoking does the same thing, distructive properties for the profits of companies who really don't give a darn.

That is why prescription medications are prescription..