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30 Jun 2009, 11:03 am

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right now, mostly because of MUSLIM countries, the UN council is bitching at the US for not passing laws that make saying bad things about any religion against the law, which means if you say "Its wrong to stone people even through its in your holy book." You can legally be sent to jail.
This is what I don't want!

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and may I remind you of something? The dutch artist who said Islam is violent, well, when the muslim community heard it, they went off and beheaded three nuns in the middle east, which proves the cartoonists point.

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the first amendement allows all political speech, which would be destroyed by the allowing any religion to to have a say on people's rights, even if you disagree with something, the other person has the same right to hold those beliefs as you have the right to hold yours.


please do not show offensive cartoons.



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30 Jun 2009, 11:23 am

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please do not show offensive cartoons.


They don't offend me at all.

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30 Jun 2009, 11:27 am

Ruvie, they might offend other people. <.<



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30 Jun 2009, 12:08 pm

I am just showing a point, if you read what I wrote under each cartoon, it explains my point, second, as I have stated, is that while you disagree with the picture, I have the right to use it in any IRL in the USA. In the middle east, I would be arrested for it. As Voltaire said "While I disagree with what you say, I will fight to the death for your right to say it."


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30 Jun 2009, 12:41 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:

please do not show offensive cartoons.


They don't offend me at all.

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thay offend muslims



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30 Jun 2009, 12:56 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:
thay offend muslims

So do a lot of things. Remind me why I should care.


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30 Jun 2009, 1:00 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:

please do not show offensive cartoons.


They don't offend me at all.

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thay offend muslims

If muslims are really peaceful, enlightened folks they should laugh at the ridiculous cartoon the Danish cartoonist made, and not make such a big deal out of it.

Because it's preposterous to see a connection between Islam and bombs. Right...?


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30 Jun 2009, 1:06 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:

please do not show offensive cartoons.


They don't offend me at all.

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thay offend muslims


You have a valid point. And you asked politely. :D

But what about Muslim countries who declare that showing such images anywhere in the world is a crime punishable by death?


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30 Jun 2009, 2:15 pm

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If muslims are really peaceful, enlightened folks they should laugh at the ridiculous cartoon the Danish cartoonist made, and not make such a big deal out of it.

Because it's preposterous to see a connection between Islam and bombs. Right...?

Oh the irony. Someone criticizes Islam for being violent, and Muslims the world over respond to this "slander" by calling for his death.


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30 Jun 2009, 2:22 pm

I have one someone made of Mohammed doing something extremely inappropriate with a pig, but it wouldn't be allowed here.



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30 Jun 2009, 3:20 pm

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I have one someone made of Mohammed doing something extremely inappropriate with a pig, but it wouldn't be allowed here.


as a Jew i would not even dare to make fun of the Muslim Prophet in any way.



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30 Jun 2009, 3:37 pm

I'm an Atheist.



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30 Jun 2009, 3:43 pm

I am atheist and gay, and if they are offended, too bad, trust me, I have a pic of jesus and the prophet going at it and that would be more offensive. I live in the USA, I have the legal right to it.

Second, A lot of the muslim beliefs offend me, stoning, hanging of gays, death to nonbelieves, etc, yet I deal with it, so if I post a picture showing how Islam is used to justify killing innocent people, they can complain but just deal with it.


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30 Jun 2009, 4:02 pm

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I am atheist and gay, and if they are offended, too bad, trust me, I have a pic of jesus and the prophet going at it and that would be more offensive. I live in the USA, I have the legal right to it.

Second, A lot of the muslim beliefs offend me, stoning, hanging of gays, death to nonbelieves, etc, yet I deal with it, so if I post a picture showing how Islam is used to justify killing innocent people, they can complain but just deal with it.


muslims have a tradition of tolorence in the Past, particularly in Islamic Spain



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30 Jun 2009, 5:03 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:

muslims have a tradition of tolorence in the Past, particularly in Islamic Spain


That ended about 700 years ago

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30 Jun 2009, 5:38 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:
cognito wrote:
I am atheist and gay, and if they are offended, too bad, trust me, I have a pic of jesus and the prophet going at it and that would be more offensive. I live in the USA, I have the legal right to it.

Second, A lot of the muslim beliefs offend me, stoning, hanging of gays, death to nonbelieves, etc, yet I deal with it, so if I post a picture showing how Islam is used to justify killing innocent people, they can complain but just deal with it.


muslims have a tradition of tolorence in the Past, particularly in Islamic Spain


Amazing what a culture shift towards distain for naturalistic inquiry (that is, the overly popular The Incoherence of the Philsophers), power feuds, and externally bully (past and present imperialism) can combine to in producing wilful ignorance, fundamentalism, and fanaticism.