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- Make history teach the real thing. Like how Washington was a racist mason and how Lincoln only got elected because he was tall.
- US official language policy: They should make Navajo the official language. All the filthy immigrants that came after the people originally here should have the decency to learn that first common language.

Oh, you're such a bleeding heart liberal.

Abortion is repugnant, regardless of the risk to the mother. Childbirth itself is a life-or-death situation for women, and you're a vile liberal for advocating an exception.


You're a vile liberal for wanting children to go to school, instead of working in mines and factories. History is just a bunch of lame nonsense, anyway. Their employers can tell them what to think, and of what to be proud.


You're a damned liberal for not advocating the end of the FCC.


You're a damned liberal for not wanting Garrison Keillor and Barney shot.


You're a damned liberal for not wanting foreigners shot.


No-one should be permitted to speak anything but English. Foreign languages need to be prohibited from being either taught or spoken. Except for Vulgate Latin for church services.


You're a damned liberal for wanting to replace Obamacare with anything. Absolutely nothing involving government interference with health care makes "sense."


You're pro-Palestinian, in addition to being a vile Liberal.


Sure. Why don't you hug them while you're at it?


Ronald Reagan will be rolling over in his grave, you vile Lberal. You really are on George Soros' payroll, aren't you?

What are your opinions on foreign immigration, sponsorship of foreign missions to remove terrorists, abortion, social welfare and affirmative action?

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In short:

I am against foreign immigration. (Edit) That involves illegal immigration or immigration with absolutely no heart to blend in and assimilate with the rest of the country. (Thanks) No illegal foreign people, please! And foreign workers should work as a guest worker in legal terms, unless the immigrant proves him- (or her-) self to assimilate and contribute to society, like other citizens do. A case could be argued for the typical Asian American especially to continue working hard and using his talents in an area Americans may not enjoy doing, esp. Electric Engineering. But first, he has to lose his Asian-ness that could work in contrary to the American way of living, and totally follow the positive parts - if he decides to naturalize and be an American. For example, he can't talk in the library loudly, like most sensible Americans do. (You watched the UCLA Asians in the Library video? I actually did agree many of her points)

I am in full support of foreign missions to remove terrorists, so I am actually supportive of the act of killing Osama bin Laden in Pakistan without Pakistan's knowledge, despite knowing who did it.

I am against abortion unless it threatens the life of the mother and the fetus, and the operation should be paid by the physician and the mother - not the State.

I hope for the abolishment of Social Security so long as people have the clear right to own land and property, guaranteeing economic security for their efforts, which does happen in many countries.

I also hope for the abolishment of federal income taxes. I believe every state should have the discretion to cut or eliminate taxes whenever possible, but I think there should be the incentive for states to reduce taxes. And if the State wants to levy a tax, charge a flat tax for all. Easy and do-able.

I am opposed to affirmative action, assuming a person gets opportunities because the minimum number of people of a certain socioeconomic group is not yet reached. Ability, and not skin color, should be the key to success.

Thanks kxmode and kraichgauer for refining my views - some points I am not sure of, I consulted both Wikipedia and posts.

Last edited by ruennsheng on 25 Jun 2011, 12:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

So in other words, you are for the government telling people who they can and can't do business with. Did a foreigner offer you the best price on your house, or agree to rent your apartment that was just sitting idle? Tough s**t, because the state knows best.

mcg, you're right in implying that societal and economic freedom may not co-exist. The fact is - they don't.

But don't you know that it is the non-natives who heated up the property markets around the world, making house-ownership unsustainable. And only with property, we can have a stable society.

More opinions:

1. Abolish public television
2. Enforce anti-illegal immigration laws
3. Only Vulgate Latin and English should be taught in the U.S.
4. Do nothing on Healthcare, block reforms
5. In the Middle East, Israel and only Israel, forever

I'd love to restore the old Kingdom of Prussia, or at least restore Germany's old borders in the east (prior to 1945.) Give back to Germany and repopulate with Germans the Kaliningrad Oblast. Woo-Hoo ! !

Diz is goot, Barrett!

give amnesty to current illegals, decrease illegal immigration by 70% by 2025, increase legal immigration by 10% by 2015, increase H1-B visas to attract talent

make 3rd trimester abortion illegal unless mothers life is in danger, cut all funding for planned parenthood, make it illegal for an abortion clinic to be within 2 mile of a k-12 school, allow limited federal support of stem cell research(100 million), make contraception illegal in all k-12 schools

ban gay marriage, make civil unions available in all 50 states, allow gays to adopt children (find some way to allow their children access to a care-taker of the opposite sex of the gay couple - a legal nightmare without assured success, but that would be my preference)

increase charter schools, allow every student in a failing school or school district the opportunity to opt out for a rivaling available charter or better performing public school, make it easy to fire crappy teachers, increase pay of excellent teachers immensely, set up job-training programs in high schools where they shadow professions in their field of interest all four years, allow money to follow the child wherever their the legitimate institutions that their parents choose to send them, incentivize student performance(say they can finish high school in three years and graduate, that forth year's public school tuition can be transfered to whatever college they choose to attend). teach creationism in a philosophy or philosophy/science setting, realistic about the costs of college and the realities of the job market that then awaits graduates, make high schools have a vocational component including Skills-USA/VICA with a focus on career after high school, increased federal funding for the sciences and mathematics and a culture supportive of that

modernize our electric grid, implement most of IBM's smart city suggestions in economic and educational hubs throughout the country, increase nuclear power, keep existing tax credits for green energy, make all advances in science or whatever by public institutions(publicly funded universities) public domain,

make prostitution and red-light districts illegal, make child porn and trafficking punishable by humiliation, torture, and ending with the death penalty, make sexual trafficking and slavery of any human being punishable by life in isolation in prison including torture and no entertainment including literature, reading, or recreational time

legalize marijuana and expunge marijuana procession use from all criminals records, move towards legalization of drugs on the north american continent

modify 3-strike rules to be more humane, and kill as many criminals as possible on death row

separate highway-spending from public transportation, empower existing high-speed rail line ONLY in the NE corridor(acela), increase subways or light-rail thoughout metropolitans who will willingly support most of its costs, build smart roads/highways and tons of them

repeal some to most of obamacare especially its focus on coverage, and only add to it what brings down the costs of healthcare, including tort reform

make a constitutional ammendment requiring a balanced budget, raise taxes on everyone (including the poor), cut many social programs, defund opb and npr, keep places of worship tax free, cut death tax rate in half, decrease all foreign aid by 25%, only allow social security for those who jointly make 70,000, or 35,000 individually, phase out the program for private accounts instead, encourage personal savings, increase the limit on individual campaign contributions, Make english official language.

supports suburbs or the middle class, increase "responsible" sprawl that include multi-use ecosystems or mixed-use facilities (condo's or recreational facilities on top of the local safeway? business districts that don't look like ghost towns on the weekends?) be sensitive to the needs of multipolar urban areas who are actually engines of job creation for all, not just white collar or high tech. increase exports, attract more foreign investments and business, expand right-to-work to all 50 states,

cut 2011 levels of waist by 70% by 2050, 35% by 2030(increase recycling programs including at landfills), make CAFE official national standard (SCREW YOU CALIFORNIA) with limited input from the commies in California, increase sustainability in all facets of life, crack down on the FDA, end federal farm subsidies including sugar and corn, federally support sustainable healthier agriculture, include farmers market as option for foodstamp holders, nationalize most water sources, decrease water waste by 50% by 2030, make food recycling programs nationwide, increase the outlawing of chemicals including many pesticides, increase humane conditions of animals in factory farms, decrease foodborn illness, bring the consumer back in touch with the land whose resources sustains them,

leave the UN, form league of Democracies with only Europe, Israel and maybe a few countries from the middl east, a few countries from the Asia zone, and some South American nations. Create a hundred billion fund to provide world with clean drinking, water sanitation, basic healthcare, and basic education for all human beings, create another hundred billion fund for alternative energy research to power the future and move us off of fossil fuels.

We need to take back the Canal Zone (What was Jimmy Carter thinking?)

Build more hydrogen bombs, and actually use the damned things. Not just let them sit pretty in a silo somewhere. For what? To decorate the Prairie States?

We need to recolonize the Philippines. Granting independence to the Philippines was a national disgrace.

You are joking, yes?

The Romans tried doing their version of what you propose and where did it get them?

ruveyn

The Romans didn't have hydrogen bombs, but they did have a pretty good run. Much of Europe speaks languages descended from Latin. Some day, if we play our cards right, much of the world will be speaking languages descended from American English. Future Pentecostal church leaders will be learning to read King James English.