France Bans The Burqa

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Oh yeah there was never any anti irish prejudice in the UK. Tell that to the Guildford four and Birmingham six.



Private businesses don't have the right to disobey the laws and serve who they like. As was proved with the homophobic couple who ran the B&B. They have to follow the law.

Though personally I can't understand why anyone would want to stop at a B&B when the owners clearly don't like you for whatever reason. Have you done that? I've stopped in places like that before and it isn't nice. I would rather have left. It's one of those laws, I think, where it's actually better if no-one's forced. They can put up that they don't want the gays in, the LGBT community can know and plan for this, the local community tells prospective people they're bigots and to avoid them - what's not to like?

I say repeal the law and let natural justice wash all over them. Turning away money is a stupid idea but it should be their choice. It's their home at the end of the day.

Oh, there was anti-Irish prejudice in Britain in 1970s (as well as in Northern Ireland, obviously). But you'd expect it. Britain was being bombed to bits by Irish terrorists at the time.

My family are Irish. I grew up in the 1970s in Lancashire and I don't recall any hostility aimed at us, but that may be because I was too young to notice. At the beginning of the 80s we moved down south. Oh boy did I notice it then.

One of my dad's friends is from Newry who left NI in the late 1960s and settled on the next street from us. He's never received any bother from anyone (apart from the usual banter) for being Irish, or a nationalist. We have a very Catholic culture up here and have had quite a bit of Irish immigration historically anyway. But then we weren't getting bombed by the IRA up here.

I'd expect it but i wouldn't make allowances for it. I wouldn't have been scared s**tless everytime i saw an Irish person. I'd be scared s**tless because they were a fellow human being but thats a different issue. . It's not ok to treat everyone who shares the characteristics of some wrong doer in the way you would treat that wrongdoer. Look at the people who did 7/7. According to them it was ok to blow up some buses because of what the UK government was upto in Iraq. We were "all the same" to them.

I don't feel threatened by a bunch of Muslim women basically. I think they should have the choice to wear it and i'm not arsed.

I grew up in Skem. The terroists probably took one look at the place and thought it had already been bombed.

Perhaps the French want France not to look like Somalia? Perhaps in addition to preventing France from looking like one of the desert nations of the middle east, it also serves to discourage immigration of the more radical Muslims. The ones who would go for jihad would probably not move there if it meant that they'd have to break other laws of their religion. Either way, if the nation of France wants to ban burqas why this should surprise anyone I don't know, since a while ago they had attempted to ban the words "hamburger" and "cheeseburger" also because those words aren't French.

France is right to ban the Burqa.

There is a larger issue going on. Islam is trying to conquer Europe by attrition. Birth more and more Muslims until they are a sufficient majority to mandate their ways via shear number at the ballot box. France is trying to take their nation back from this long-term extremist agenda. In every nation Muslims move to, they start pushing for their rights to impose Sharia law rather than follow the domestic law of the land. Even though France has an anti-proselytizing law, Muslims do not see it enforced upon them. Christians are not to pray in the streets, but I've seen video of hundreds (if not thousands) of Muslim men praying in the street in defiance of the law...police did nothing about it.

A religious war is brewing. Once they realize they won't get what they want, they will escalate their tactics.

sigh. Meanwhile in the real world the number of muslims in france stands at 4% and the ban affects 2000 women at most.

I don't want to ban the burqa or the niqab (unlike Lord Pearson when he was leader of UKIP, which I opposed). Muslim women should be perfectly free to dress however they like. However, the rest of the population also should have the right to deny access to people wearing a full-face veil if they want to. If that was a politically acceptable option, a hell of a lot of people would.

So, they'd still be allowed in, just without the shroud. So, it's the same rules for everyone.

Freedom runs both ways.

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And increasing rapidly all the time through immigration, birth and marriages from 'back home'.

I went there once. I drove round the main roundabout into the town (the shopping centre!) and took the road straight out.

This does mean banning them from wearing it outside right? I have no qualms with what they do behind the curtain.

The French (and probably the Dutch, too, once they get round to it - the anti-Islam PVV, who are informal supporters of the Dutch government, is pushing for a ban there) ban for the niqab/burqa means for outside, yes. But the entire point of such a garment is to wear it outside so that neither the face, nor the body, can be seen.

There won't be sharia law implemented in a european country in our lifetime. I don't see how people can be so scared of such a small minority of the population.

There won't be, probably because in their hearts the Muslim populations really don't want it. They're like little squirts trying to test boundaries. Face them down and these problems disappear.