[POLL] Where are you politically?

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Where are you politically?

Liberal	13%	[ 13 ]
Conservative	10%	[ 10 ]
Moderate	7%	[ 7 ]
Socialist	13%	[ 13 ]
Libertarian	15%	[ 15 ]
Authoritarian	1%	[ 1 ]
Anarchist	5%	[ 5 ]
Communist	3%	[ 3 ]
Centrist	6%	[ 6 ]
Mixture of a few	20%	[ 20 ]
Other	9%	[ 9 ]

Total votes : 102

Vigilans
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15 Mar 2012, 10:01 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

androbot2084 wrote:

Communism is the only way forward. Why not spread the wealth around?

Communism id guaranteed to fail. People are naturally selfish.

ruveyn

I don't think its that simple. Selfishness should have consumed a capitalist society by now based on the criteria you have put forward. We're still around.

IMHO the biggest problem of all with communism is its a static system - it can't react to problems. Even if you have something that's more like fascism you still have no scientific method involved in meeting supply and demand, a handful of people still aren't intelligent enough to react to every foreseeable problem the way a bunch of people with no association and entrepreneurial ideas can, and in essence central planning puts a responsibility on a handful of detatched people that's far too vast an order for them to ever fill.

Yeah, it is really not a flexible economic system. I think it could work if we had technology that made mass production of any product extremely cheap and quick. Economic flexibility would not really matter then. "Replicators" from Star Trek make that future rather Communist, no? That is something I have always thought, at least

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15 Mar 2012, 10:29 pm

Vigilans wrote:

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

androbot2084 wrote:

Communism is the only way forward. Why not spread the wealth around?

Communism id guaranteed to fail. People are naturally selfish.

ruveyn

I don't think its that simple. Selfishness should have consumed a capitalist society by now based on the criteria you have put forward. We're still around.

I believe the American Communist Party has actually agreed that for certain things a market will be necessary to meet demand. Personally I'd like to see that accomplished through cooperatives.

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15 Mar 2012, 10:33 pm

Vigilans wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

AstroGeek wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

I am a member of the Rhinoceros Party in Canada. You might ask why because I am an American, but that is the entire point of the Rhinoceros Party, from what I understand.

So you support your own annexation? It would be fun for us to have the American Territory!

I am more interested in going to war with Belgium than the annexation.

Those Belgians are so damned evil. I also want to discover the fate of Lecks

No more Belgium, no more EU. I think that alone can get us massive support for future conquests.

We don't refer to them as conquests, we refer to them as "Re-acquisitions" Article 9000 of the new Canadian Imperial Constitution guarantees all land on Earth's surface as Canadian property. Thus our military actions are merely returning this property to our direct administration

Switch *Canada with the *USA

We don't refer to them as conquests, we refer to them as "Re-acquisitions" Article 9000 of the new American Imperial Constitution guarantees all land on Earth's surface as American property. Thus our military actions are merely returning this property to our direct administration

Ta-Da!! !

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16 Mar 2012, 1:26 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

Sadly, many are swayed by "religious conviction," or by playing up to regionalism (though Romney sure fell on his face doing it).

that was indeed excrutiatingly awful to watch. :oops:

ya know, he kinda reminds me of a subject of a funny old 78 rpm record i heard on dr. d a long time ago, the one about "there's no one with endurance, like the man who sells insurance"- he would make a killer insurance salesman, if ya ask me-

I used to be as happy as a squirrel in a tree,
'Til a man who sold insurance made a nervous wreck of me-
He followed me persistently and if I'm put away,
That bird who sold insurance made me what I am today

CHORUS
For there's no one with endurance, Like the man who sells insurance,
He's everybody's best friend-
He will follow you and fret you, But remember he will get you-
For he gets us all in the end.

In spite of every way I tried to leave him in the lurch,
He chased me in the subway and he followed me to church-
I even spent a night in jail in my desire to hide,
But in the morning George Insurance was waiting just outside-

CHORUS
For there's no one with endurance, Like the man who sells insurance,
He's everybody's best friend-
He'll be sweeter than molasses, But when he puts on his glasses,
He gets us all in the end.

One day at Coney Island when I went in for a swim,
A man swam up beside me who was no-on else but him-
Said he to me "I'm glad to see you love the ocean wave,
But our 20-year endowment is the only way to save"-

CHORUS
For there's no one with endurance, Like the man who sells insurance,
He's everybody's best friend-
He's always bright and snappy, And no wonder that he's happy,
For he gets us all in the end-

One day I saw him coming so I quickly climbed a tree,
But George Insurance saw me too and climbed up after me-
Said he to me up in the tree: "I'm fond of nature too,
But our 20-year endowment is the policy for you"-

CHORUS
For there's no one with endurance, Like the man who sells insurance,
He's everybody's best friend-
And the harder that you make it, Believe me he can take it,
For he gets us all in the end.

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16 Mar 2012, 1:55 am

auntblabby wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Sadly, many are swayed by "religious conviction," or by playing up to regionalism (though Romney sure fell on his face doing it).

that was indeed excrutiatingly awful to watch. :oops:

As one CNN commentator recently said about Rooney's attempt to sound southern -
"You don't go to New England trying to sound like Thurston Howell III."
But it would certainly be funny if Romney tried! :lol:

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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16 Mar 2012, 2:16 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

As one CNN commentator recently said about Rooney's attempt to sound southern - "You don't go to New England trying to sound like Thurston Howell III." But it would certainly be funny if Romney tried! :lol:

judging by his pedestrian sub-clouseau-quality french accent, it would come off just as insipidly as his spurious-sounding southern drawl. :roll:

willard romney is prostituting himself to the crazy wingnuts of his party.

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16 Mar 2012, 4:23 am

auntblabby wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

As one CNN commentator recently said about Rooney's attempt to sound southern - "You don't go to New England trying to sound like Thurston Howell III." But it would certainly be funny if Romney tried! :lol:

judging by his pedestrian sub-clouseau-quality french accent, it would come off just as insipidly as his spurious-sounding southern drawl. :roll:

willard romney is prostituting himself to the crazy wingnuts of his party.

Absolutely.

Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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16 Mar 2012, 10:49 am

but if somebody pointed a cannon at me and told me i had to vote for either sanctimonious ooze or willard, i'd have to choose willard as the lesser of two evils. blech.

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16 Mar 2012, 11:15 am

auntblabby wrote:

but if somebody pointed a cannon at me and told me i had to vote for either sanctimonious ooze or willard, i'd have to choose willard as the lesser of two evils. blech.

Me too. Thankfully, there isn't a cannon pointed at either of us.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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16 Mar 2012, 12:57 pm

Pragmaticly I'd describe myself as being a social democrat , and idealisticly, I'm a left-libertarian. Basicly, in a nutshell, I believe that the welfare state should, and will, be dissolved, after people are mature enough to have the social consciousness to take responsibility for each other, for mutual benefit. But until this perverbial age, social welfare is necessary, in order to make up for the disparity within bourgeois capitalist society. My political party afilliation is Democratic, and I consider myself to be a progressive Democrat But socio-economicly, I favour economic democracy, and the use of co-operative enterprises, over both corporate, and state, capitalism. On a related side note, I tend to feel that we aspies, and/or auties, personally tend to have a natural disposition towards libertarian socialism; as we crave both autonomy, and order. I feel that libertarian socialism is the only ideology which balances indivisual autonomy with social order, based upon voluntary association, and co-operation. That's my explanitory take on autism's relationship to political sentiment, though I also acknowledge that it's a generalization, as even this survey's results would indicate.

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16 Mar 2012, 1:01 pm

Kjas wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

AstroGeek wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

I am a member of the Rhinoceros Party in Canada. You might ask why because I am an American, but that is the entire point of the Rhinoceros Party, from what I understand.

So you support your own annexation? It would be fun for us to have the American Territory!

I am more interested in going to war with Belgium than the annexation.

Those Belgians are so damned evil. I also want to discover the fate of Lecks

No more Belgium, no more EU. I think that alone can get us massive support for future conquests.

Or...

We don't refer to them as conquests, we refer to them as "Re-acquisitions" Article 9000 of the new Burkina Faso Imperial Constitution guarantees all land on Earth's surface as Burkinabè property. Thus our military actions are merely returning this property to our direct administration

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16 Mar 2012, 1:10 pm

I'm not sure what I'd call myself, I'm both socially and economically liberal, but I do think that a certain social safety net, including health care needs to be available to all citizens. This is not due to care so much as practicality. The cost of losing productive citizens to illness is much higher than the cost of healing them in most cases. Losing otherwise productive citizens due to temporary issues is also something that does more damage to society than helping people get back on their feet. I'm against the death penalty because it's more expensive than life in prison.

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16 Mar 2012, 4:22 pm

enrico_dandolo wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

AstroGeek wrote:

HerrGrimm wrote:

I am a member of the Rhinoceros Party in Canada. You might ask why because I am an American, but that is the entire point of the Rhinoceros Party, from what I understand.

So you support your own annexation? It would be fun for us to have the American Territory!

I am more interested in going to war with Belgium than the annexation.

Hey! That was settled when the Belgians gave mussels to the Rhinoceros Party!

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But as I had said, not every Belgian is the same. Which was the shooter - Flemish, German, or Walloon?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

It was Tintin, in Tintin au Congo.

You got me. I am not really a member of the Rhinoceros Party, I was just being silly. Which is why I am a member of the Rhinoceros Party

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16 Mar 2012, 5:52 pm

The original Rhinoceros Party is dead, however. It was more or less resurrected recently, but now, they have political ideas

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16 Mar 2012, 6:31 pm

I am a Feminist my brother Joker who is also a wrong planet memmber is a Fascist.

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16 Mar 2012, 6:59 pm

femme wrote:

I am a Feminist my brother Joker who is also a wrong planet memmber is a Fascist.

Joker is a fascist?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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