21 Jun 2012, 2:42 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
I never accused you of ever being a racist.
Personally, I don't think Gingrich is a racist either - but I think he essentially sold his soul by trying to appeal to racist voters, particularly in the south. Same way as he sold his soul when he advocated for the draconian measures of the Ryan plan - a buttload of hateful idiocy which he had originally labeled as right wing social engineering. Newt Gingrich is by no means a stupid man, but he adopts its ideas to pander to his most extreme constituency.
And I too would tell that to your face.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Personally, I don't think Gingrich is a racist either - but I think he essentially sold his soul by trying to appeal to racist voters, particularly in the south. Same way as he sold his soul when he advocated for the draconian measures of the Ryan plan - a buttload of hateful idiocy which he had originally labeled as right wing social engineering. Newt Gingrich is by no means a stupid man, but he adopts its ideas to pander to his most extreme constituency.
And I too would tell that to your face.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Actually Gingrich meant every word he said, it's just liberals like to falsely accuse people on the right of being racist.
ArrantPariah wrote:
Are you two flirting with each other?
Btw, why did you bring up that video of kids in Mexico City, if you knew that Mexico is not part of the United States... Newt was in a Presidential Primary in order to potentially be the President of the United States, not the President of Mexico...
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21 Jun 2012, 2:49 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I never accused you of ever being a racist.
Personally, I don't think Gingrich is a racist either - but I think he essentially sold his soul by trying to appeal to racist voters, particularly in the south. Same way as he sold his soul when he advocated for the draconian measures of the Ryan plan - a buttload of hateful idiocy which he had originally labeled as right wing social engineering. Newt Gingrich is by no means a stupid man, but he adopts its ideas to pander to his most extreme constituency.
And I too would tell that to your face.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Personally, I don't think Gingrich is a racist either - but I think he essentially sold his soul by trying to appeal to racist voters, particularly in the south. Same way as he sold his soul when he advocated for the draconian measures of the Ryan plan - a buttload of hateful idiocy which he had originally labeled as right wing social engineering. Newt Gingrich is by no means a stupid man, but he adopts its ideas to pander to his most extreme constituency.
And I too would tell that to your face.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Actually Gingrich meant every word he said, it's just liberals like to falsely accuse people on the right of being racist.
ArrantPariah wrote:
Are you two flirting with each other?
Btw, why did you bring up that video of kids in Mexico City, if you knew that Mexico is not part of the United States... Newt was in a Presidential Primary in order to potentially be the President of the United States, not the President of Mexico...
Why hasn't Gingrich brought up rural, white poor kids needing a work ethic or proper role models? Could it be that their parents were part of the constituency he was trying to gain, and so he chose to demonize "ghetto" inner city blacks?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
21 Jun 2012, 3:06 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I never accused you of ever being a racist.
Personally, I don't think Gingrich is a racist either - but I think he essentially sold his soul by trying to appeal to racist voters, particularly in the south. Same way as he sold his soul when he advocated for the draconian measures of the Ryan plan - a buttload of hateful idiocy which he had originally labeled as right wing social engineering. Newt Gingrich is by no means a stupid man, but he adopts its ideas to pander to his most extreme constituency.
And I too would tell that to your face.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Personally, I don't think Gingrich is a racist either - but I think he essentially sold his soul by trying to appeal to racist voters, particularly in the south. Same way as he sold his soul when he advocated for the draconian measures of the Ryan plan - a buttload of hateful idiocy which he had originally labeled as right wing social engineering. Newt Gingrich is by no means a stupid man, but he adopts its ideas to pander to his most extreme constituency.
And I too would tell that to your face.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Actually Gingrich meant every word he said, it's just liberals like to falsely accuse people on the right of being racist.
ArrantPariah wrote:
Are you two flirting with each other?
Btw, why did you bring up that video of kids in Mexico City, if you knew that Mexico is not part of the United States... Newt was in a Presidential Primary in order to potentially be the President of the United States, not the President of Mexico...
Why hasn't Gingrich brought up rural, white poor kids needing a work ethic or proper role models? Could it be that their parents were part of the constituency he was trying to gain, and so he chose to demonize "ghetto" inner city blacks?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Those kids often get jobs or work on the farm, or something of that nature. In all honesty you don't see quite as much poverty in rural areas, furthermore you do realize people hunt deer for more than simply sport you know...
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21 Jun 2012, 3:30 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I never accused you of ever being a racist.
Personally, I don't think Gingrich is a racist either - but I think he essentially sold his soul by trying to appeal to racist voters, particularly in the south. Same way as he sold his soul when he advocated for the draconian measures of the Ryan plan - a buttload of hateful idiocy which he had originally labeled as right wing social engineering. Newt Gingrich is by no means a stupid man, but he adopts its ideas to pander to his most extreme constituency.
And I too would tell that to your face.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Personally, I don't think Gingrich is a racist either - but I think he essentially sold his soul by trying to appeal to racist voters, particularly in the south. Same way as he sold his soul when he advocated for the draconian measures of the Ryan plan - a buttload of hateful idiocy which he had originally labeled as right wing social engineering. Newt Gingrich is by no means a stupid man, but he adopts its ideas to pander to his most extreme constituency.
And I too would tell that to your face.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Actually Gingrich meant every word he said, it's just liberals like to falsely accuse people on the right of being racist.
ArrantPariah wrote:
Are you two flirting with each other?
Btw, why did you bring up that video of kids in Mexico City, if you knew that Mexico is not part of the United States... Newt was in a Presidential Primary in order to potentially be the President of the United States, not the President of Mexico...
Why hasn't Gingrich brought up rural, white poor kids needing a work ethic or proper role models? Could it be that their parents were part of the constituency he was trying to gain, and so he chose to demonize "ghetto" inner city blacks?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Those kids often get jobs or work on the farm, or something of that nature. In all honesty you don't see quite as much poverty in rural areas, furthermore you do realize people hunt deer for more than simply sport you know...
That's because such work is available to rural poor white kids. The same can't be said about urban areas, where business often fled when blacks arrived, or if they stayed, they weren't plentiful enough to employ a significant number of the local people. And that's not taking in to account of how such businesses hire from outside the neighborhood. So it can't be argued that poor urban areas are flooded with jobs nobody wants. And before you state that poor urban dwellers could just seek employment outside of the inner city, the fact of the matter is, a great deal of them don't own cars, and anyone who has ever used public transportation know it's slow and that bus routes are being cut by conservative politicians for the sake of "cutting waste."
A big part of joblessness among the poor is due to something Gingrich or no Republican will ever owe up to - - the failure of capitalism to help the poorest of us.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
21 Jun 2012, 3:43 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I never accused you of ever being a racist.
Personally, I don't think Gingrich is a racist either - but I think he essentially sold his soul by trying to appeal to racist voters, particularly in the south. Same way as he sold his soul when he advocated for the draconian measures of the Ryan plan - a buttload of hateful idiocy which he had originally labeled as right wing social engineering. Newt Gingrich is by no means a stupid man, but he adopts its ideas to pander to his most extreme constituency.
And I too would tell that to your face.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Personally, I don't think Gingrich is a racist either - but I think he essentially sold his soul by trying to appeal to racist voters, particularly in the south. Same way as he sold his soul when he advocated for the draconian measures of the Ryan plan - a buttload of hateful idiocy which he had originally labeled as right wing social engineering. Newt Gingrich is by no means a stupid man, but he adopts its ideas to pander to his most extreme constituency.
And I too would tell that to your face.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Actually Gingrich meant every word he said, it's just liberals like to falsely accuse people on the right of being racist.
ArrantPariah wrote:
Are you two flirting with each other?
Btw, why did you bring up that video of kids in Mexico City, if you knew that Mexico is not part of the United States... Newt was in a Presidential Primary in order to potentially be the President of the United States, not the President of Mexico...
Why hasn't Gingrich brought up rural, white poor kids needing a work ethic or proper role models? Could it be that their parents were part of the constituency he was trying to gain, and so he chose to demonize "ghetto" inner city blacks?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Those kids often get jobs or work on the farm, or something of that nature. In all honesty you don't see quite as much poverty in rural areas, furthermore you do realize people hunt deer for more than simply sport you know...
That's because such work is available to rural poor white kids. The same can't be said about urban areas, where business often fled when blacks arrived, or if they stayed, they weren't plentiful enough to employ a significant number of the local people. And that's not taking in to account of how such businesses hire from outside the neighborhood. So it can't be argued that poor urban areas are flooded with jobs nobody wants. And before you state that poor urban dwellers could just seek employment outside of the inner city, the fact of the matter is, a great deal of them don't own cars, and anyone who has ever used public transportation know it's slow and that bus routes are being cut by conservative politicians for the sake of "cutting waste."
A big part of joblessness among the poor is due to something Gingrich or no Republican will ever owe up to - - the failure of capitalism to help the poorest of us.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Actually it has more to do with the difference in labor laws, kids can work on a farm for instance...
Then there is the fact one would be trying to undo a problem that is 40 to 50 years in the making. This isn't something that can be solved overnight, but from a longterm standpoint, giving kids in the inner city the opportunity to have real jobs such as what Newt Gingrich suggested would start getting things moving in the right direction. If there is a new emphasis on family structure where kids have a dad and a mom, that would also help things get better.
In all honesty, this is something that took decades to create the problem, and it will be at least an entire generation before the damage is undone. I also fail to see how a kid having a part time job and earning money is a bad thing.
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21 Jun 2012, 5:16 pm
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21 Jun 2012, 5:44 pm
21 Jun 2012, 5:49 pm
ArrantPariah wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Btw, why did you bring up that video of kids in Mexico City, if you knew that Mexico is not part of the United States... Newt was in a Presidential Primary in order to potentially be the President of the United States, not the President of Mexico...
This would seem to be the goal of the Repugnican Party--get rid of teachers, close schools, get children off of the government dole, stop giving them food. The ultimate wet dream: poor children in the USA living in garbage dumps, as happens to many poor children in Mexico and in other parts of the world.
Seriously, you need to stop being so gullable... You need to learn the Democrats scare tactics are nothing more than scare tactics designed to get you to panic instead of looking at the situation rationally.
21 Jun 2012, 5:50 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Considering some janitors make over $100k a year easily,
Fox Noise is leaving you seriously misinformed once again.Inuyasha wrote:
it would probably only take firing 1 janitor to hire 30 kids,
End child-labour laws. Every Conservative's wet dream.Inuyasha wrote:
just make the income the children make from the job tax-exempt (which also means that welfare can't argue that they should cut money because tax-exempt means the child doesn't need to report it nor can they be penalized for the income). I think that kids under 18 shouldn't have to pay income taxes personally because they are too young to vote. While they might still get money from government because they are in poverty, they are earning their own spending money and learn the value of holding a job.
Inuyasha wrote:
I don't want them spending their entire life as janitors, and Newt wasn't advocating that either. After they graduate high school, I would think they are more likely to go on to college and take college seriously. Then they are likely to end up having a degree and getting a better job, then maybe some day owning their own business. In other words break the cycle of poverty.
By having them take over janitorial positions as children.
21 Jun 2012, 5:52 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Btw, why did you bring up that video of kids in Mexico City, if you knew that Mexico is not part of the United States... Newt was in a Presidential Primary in order to potentially be the President of the United States, not the President of Mexico...
This would seem to be the goal of the Repugnican Party--get rid of teachers, close schools, get children off of the government dole, stop giving them food. The ultimate wet dream: poor children in the USA living in garbage dumps, as happens to many poor children in Mexico and in other parts of the world.
Seriously, you need to stop being so gullable... You need to learn the Democrats scare tactics are nothing more than scare tactics designed to get you to panic instead of looking at the situation rationally.
And you need to learn how to spell. Are the Repugnicans, then, in favour of hiring more teachers, opening more schools, putting more children on the government dole, and giving them free food?
21 Jun 2012, 5:56 pm
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