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AngelRho
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Kraichgauer
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11 Jun 2012, 3:57 pm
AngelRho wrote:
Xenu wrote:
You have balls good sir... See here is my opinion, there are black people and then there are n******s. Black people a respectable, normal and civilized people like Barrack Obama, Herman Cain, Morgan Freeman, and Bill Cosby. A n***** is the stereotypical "yO yO yO gUrL i SlAp DaT aSs Yo" or "yO yO yO i PoP a CaP iN yO aSs Yo iF yO DoNt GiVe MuH sPeCiAl TrEaTmEnT lIeK fReE cOlLeGe, mOoNeY, aNd JoBs bCuZ oF sUmTiN dAt HaPpEnEd cEntUriEs aGo AnD dAt I hAvE nO pErSonAl CoNnEcTiOn ToO yO!"
Y0, mUhFuGgah, I dOn'T 'pReShIaTe DiS sTeRe0tYpE sH!+, h4t0r!z!n oN bLaCk FoKe, y0. I tAwK lieK dIs aN' eye'm WHITE, y0! J00 n33dz 2 h4te EqUaLly on WHITE pEePz, 2, y0.
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-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
11 Jun 2012, 5:19 pm
visagrunt wrote:
I think we need to build a coalition of progressives and conservatives around a fundamental rethink of income policy--and a "guaranteed annual income" approach might be just the vehicle to do it. Tear down the bureaucracies that exist only for the purpose of denying and cutting benefits, and establish, instead, a simple system that ensures that every single individual within the country can live above the poverty line. No disincentives to work. No disincentives to education. Just a guarantee of enough money to keep a roof over one's head and food in one's kitchen.
I still can't figure out why you're a Liberal rather than a Green
Vision Green wrote:
The Green Party of Canada believes it is time to re-visit a major policy initiative − the use of a negative income tax, or Guaranteed Livable Income (GLI) for all. The use of a GLI could eliminate poverty and allow social services to concentrate on problems of mental health and addiction. The essential plan is to provide a regular payments to every Canadian without regard to a needs test. The level of the payment will be regionally set at a level above poverty, but at a bare subsistence level to encourage additional income generation. No surveillance or follow-up is required.
Unlike the current provincial welfare and federal Employment Insurance (EI) schemes, additional income is not “clawed back” at income levels below subsistence. The incentive to illegal, under-the table economies is vastly reduced. Additional income is to be declared until the wage-earner becomes a taxpayer. For higher-income Canadians, the amount of the GLI is merely taxed back in whole.
Unlike the current provincial welfare and federal Employment Insurance (EI) schemes, additional income is not “clawed back” at income levels below subsistence. The incentive to illegal, under-the table economies is vastly reduced. Additional income is to be declared until the wage-earner becomes a taxpayer. For higher-income Canadians, the amount of the GLI is merely taxed back in whole.
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11 Jun 2012, 7:18 pm
Delphiki wrote:
Joker wrote:
Whites commit crimes all the time just sayin.
Good to knowYou must be obsessed with you
12 Jun 2012, 10:37 am
AstroGeek wrote:
I still can't figure out why you're a Liberal rather than a Green
Because I have major misgivings about the Green party. I think they serve and important and valuable purpose as a focus for environmental issues, but as another player in the progressive sandbox, it further dilutes the vote. We have seen the consequence of ticket splitting in this country for the last 19 years. The last thing we need is more of it. On the left, that is.
In a straight-up Conservative-NDP battle, the Conservatives will win most of the time. The demise of the Liberal party has been the Conservatives' collective wet-dream since Stanfield lost in 1972. And to my way of thinking, if the Conservatives want it, then I want to make sure that they don't have it.
But I have a lot of time for the Elizabeth May and the Greens as a focus party, and wish them success in that.
12 Jun 2012, 3:39 pm
visagrunt wrote:
AstroGeek wrote:
I still can't figure out why you're a Liberal rather than a Green
Because I have major misgivings about the Green party. I think they serve and important and valuable purpose as a focus for environmental issues, but as another player in the progressive sandbox, it further dilutes the vote. We have seen the consequence of ticket splitting in this country for the last 19 years. The last thing we need is more of it. On the left, that is.
In a straight-up Conservative-NDP battle, the Conservatives will win most of the time. The demise of the Liberal party has been the Conservatives' collective wet-dream since Stanfield lost in 1972. And to my way of thinking, if the Conservatives want it, then I want to make sure that they don't have it.
But I have a lot of time for the Elizabeth May and the Greens as a focus party, and wish them success in that.
Sorry, couldn't help myself (although if there is anywhere that the Greens can overcome vote-splitting and get elected, it's Vancouver). I don't know if the Conservatives will win most of the time if it's just them against the NDP though, considering the NDP has been steadily drifting towards the centre for years. I'd say that they are well to the right of (Pierre) Trudeau right now.
Anyway, once my youthful idealism has worn off I'll probably agree with you. Even now I'd vote strategically if I was in a riding where I thought that it would deny the Conservatives of a seat.
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