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08 Sep 2012, 7:25 pm

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Take any of the hundreds of sentences youve written here on the PPR forum bashing muslims and take out the word "muslim", and replace it with the word "Pakistani"

It's not just Pakistanis though unfortunately. It's across the Muslim world.

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08 Sep 2012, 8:27 pm

Most muslims are respectable citizens and more often than not tend to hold pacifist views. The biggest threat to humanity today is overpopulation and its consequences.

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08 Sep 2012, 9:02 pm

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Most muslims are respectable citizens and more often than not tend to hold pacifist views. The biggest threat to humanity today is overpopulation and its consequences.

The U.S. is not overpopulated. In fact it is mostly empty.

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09 Sep 2012, 7:43 am

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Most muslims are respectable citizens and more often than not tend to hold pacifist views. The biggest threat to humanity today is overpopulation and its consequences.

The U.S. is not overpopulated. In fact it is mostly empty.

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Africa and parts of Asia is indeed overpopulated.

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09 Sep 2012, 8:15 am

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The U.S. is not overpopulated. In fact it is mostly empty.

That holds even more so for Canada. If anything else, it's mainly places like England and Western Europe that are over-populated, especially places like Benelux.

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09 Sep 2012, 8:24 am

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The U.S. is not overpopulated. In fact it is mostly empty.

That holds even more so for Canada. If anything else, it's mainly places like England and Western Europe that are over-populated, especially places like Benelux.

How about India and mainland China?

One third the worlds population are in those two nations.

England is not over populated. Neither is Western Europe. The cities are crowed because people would rather live in cities than in the country.

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09 Sep 2012, 8:26 am

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England is not over populated.

It's one of the most densely populated areas in Europe - I'm not on about the UK because the UK includes sparsely-populated Scotland and Wales. England is the second-most densely populated country in Europe apart from the Netherlands and Malta.

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09 Sep 2012, 8:35 am

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England is not over populated.

Being densely populated is not the same as being over populated. England can support its population given current production levels and current technology. Overpopulation is as much a question of agricultural productivity and technology as it is about the number of people living in an area.

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09 Sep 2012, 12:16 pm

England is currently producing food at current capacity. We have converted more of our land to our purposes than any other country in the West (World?), 76% of our land is farmland- the global average is 12%. Pending biotechnological advances, we have to import food in order to feed everyone.

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09 Sep 2012, 12:47 pm

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But yes, a good proportion of 'British' (they don't act very British, most of them)

Tell me, what does it mean to 'act British'?

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09 Sep 2012, 12:52 pm

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Tell me, what does it mean to 'act British'?

Do you consider Islamic separatism part of British culture?

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09 Sep 2012, 1:03 pm

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Tell me, what does it mean to 'act British'?

Do you consider Islamic separatism part of British culture?

What do you mean by 'British culture'?

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09 Sep 2012, 1:05 pm

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What do you mean by 'British culture'?

The style of living that predominates with most people in the UK.

If you like, here's a wiki entry.

I guess my point is - if we don't stand for anything as being part of what we value, we can end up accepting anything. So you might as well hand Britain over to Al-Qaeda, because at least they believe in something and we don't.

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09 Sep 2012, 3:28 pm

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What do you mean by 'British culture'?

I was asking for your understanding of it, not the Wikipedia entry. What you meant, and how people failed to meet your definition.

Culture is not fixed. It shifts and changes and absorbs and regrets (or rather, often forgets). There are lots of things that, at the time, were not 'British culture', but would now be considered so. There's BS and bromides spoken of as 'British', which are neither uniquely so or truly practised by the majority. What if Islamic separatism - assuming that's actually an issue - was considered fine by 51% of the nation? Would your position change?

Is the NHS - health care for all who need it, free at the point of delivery - part of 'British culture' ? Or is the dismantling and privatising of it so?

By all means, have principles. Take a stand on them. But appealing to such nonsense as a national culture is no help.

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09 Sep 2012, 4:27 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Tequila wrote:

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The U.S. is not overpopulated. In fact it is mostly empty.

That holds even more so for Canada. If anything else, it's mainly places like England and Western Europe that are over-populated, especially places like Benelux.

United States is the 3rd most populated country after China and India.

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09 Sep 2012, 4:35 pm

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Is the NHS - health care for all who need it, free at the point of delivery - part of 'British culture' ?

I'd say so, yes.

Look back at our greatest Prime Ministers- David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee, Harold Wilson (ignoring Churchill as he was pretty shambolic outside of the war). What did they have in common? They all worked to increase equality. That, for me, is what makes Britain, Britain- the support for those who need it most. Food, literature and music come and go, but that principle of helping the needy is crucial.

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