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23 May 2013, 10:03 am
23 May 2013, 10:20 am
Still waiting to see someone point out a single example of Misandry on this board. If it's as rampant as you guys say it is, it should be easy to find.........
Greb wrote:
blue_bean wrote:
I don't really point and claim much of anything, I just see a bunch of people who will never get laid.
Me too. Guys who don't have character enough to stand up and defend their rights. Guys who are willing to lick boots with the hope of being shagged for charity.
Bad news: brown nosers don't get laid.
Being a supporter of mainstream feminism (and on the same note against reactionary MRA antics) does not make a man a spineless brownoser, a white knight or traitor to his gender.
And this just in: it does get you laid. A woman is more likely to want to sleep with you if you treat her like an equal and not a potential succubbus looking to cut your nuts off and take all your money.
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23 May 2013, 10:21 am
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23 May 2013, 10:33 am
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Still waiting to see someone point out a single example of Misandry on this board. If it's as rampant as you guys say it is, it should be easy to find.........
Me too. Guys who don't have character enough to stand up and defend their rights. Guys who are willing to lick boots with the hope of being shagged for charity.
Bad news: brown nosers don't get laid.
Being a supporter of mainstream feminism (and on the same note against reactionary MRA antics) does not make a man a spineless brownoser, a white knight or traitor to his gender.
And this just in: it does get you laid. A woman is more likely to want to sleep with you if you treat her like an equal and not a potential succubbus looking to cut your nuts off and take all your money.
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blue_bean wrote:
I don't really point and claim much of anything, I just see a bunch of people who will never get laid.
Me too. Guys who don't have character enough to stand up and defend their rights. Guys who are willing to lick boots with the hope of being shagged for charity.
Bad news: brown nosers don't get laid.
Being a supporter of mainstream feminism (and on the same note against reactionary MRA antics) does not make a man a spineless brownoser, a white knight or traitor to his gender.
And this just in: it does get you laid. A woman is more likely to want to sleep with you if you treat her like an equal and not a potential succubbus looking to cut your nuts off and take all your money.
This is BS. You're more likely to be seen as weak or "putting women on a pedestal" for trying to treat them equally. Plus this also makes them look bad to other men. Though I am a hypocrite because I treat women equally anyway.
This is the whole irony of the new-age feminist movement. For the most part, it's against equality for both sides. It wants to keep men down and also make women seem weak at the same time. This sets everyone back 50+ years! WHY CAN'T ANYONE SEE THIS?! Am I the only sane person on this goddamn board?! I mean, hell, open your eyes, people! And see!
23 May 2013, 10:57 am
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I'm not familiar with any well known MRA members to say their status or not, whether they're married and successful. I do know some well known feminists who are married to Hollywood celebrities (Jay Leno's wife for example).
Orright, serious response to OP for a change:
I guess people join these groups to get some empowerment back. And societal gender stereotypes imply that men should already be empowered on their own, ie. they're supposed to be strong, they're supposed to be assertive, they're supposed to hold their own fort. Persecuted is the common feeling of people who are bitter towards the opposite gender. Persecution implies victim, and victim implies that you were/are the weak and vulnerable one in an equation. Societal stereotypes imply that men aren't meant to be the weak and vulnerable ones. Hence, weaksauce.
Persecution complexes are big turn-offs for me. Whether they embrace misogyny is just a resulting symptom.
Orright, serious response to OP for a change:
I guess people join these groups to get some empowerment back. And societal gender stereotypes imply that men should already be empowered on their own, ie. they're supposed to be strong, they're supposed to be assertive, they're supposed to hold their own fort. Persecuted is the common feeling of people who are bitter towards the opposite gender. Persecution implies victim, and victim implies that you were/are the weak and vulnerable one in an equation. Societal stereotypes imply that men aren't meant to be the weak and vulnerable ones. Hence, weaksauce.
Persecution complexes are big turn-offs for me. Whether they embrace misogyny is just a resulting symptom.
I don't feel bitter towards the opposite gender at all, and I like tough assertive women. In fact the most peaceful moment in my life was spent in an mma class, practicing mitts (strikes) with a lady of great endurance. She in fact had a broken rib, yet still insisted I try not to be soft on her. It was not like, but fact that I had found a lady completely ladylike, yet tough, and full of womanly strength any man would be foolish not to admire. If only she was single and in my home town, even being friends with her would be an honor. I don't know why the men you claim to be weak sauce don't pair up with the stronger women. If I had any chance with a martial artist lady, I would instantly make it my focus to be her man, I love 'em. I also love the ladies who are feminine, I just can't believe so many men toss out the tough ladies and always ask the girly girls out, that isn't really fair! Tough women and amputee ladies need luv too!
23 May 2013, 11:03 am
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marshall wrote:
Greb wrote:
marshall wrote:
Apparently you don't know how to read. What is BS is that men expect women to work longer hours AND do the house work, cook for them, and all the traditional female roles. Is it any wonder women are more stressed out and depressed than men?
I was trying to express a balanced opinion on this issue but I don't have a lot of patience for dumb reactionary crap so I'm not really interested in arguing with you or Kurgan.
I was trying to express a balanced opinion on this issue but I don't have a lot of patience for dumb reactionary crap so I'm not really interested in arguing with you or Kurgan.
This thread is full of arguments that make no sense at all. This one just filled the cup.
If the issue raised if that men have a higher average salary because they're men or because they're more involved... what's the point with the house work? Now the company has to pay for the house work? What kind of BS is that? C'mon!
If nobody does the housework or child rearing the children might get taken away by protective services. If someone is fired from their job because being kept up by a screaming child all night made them too tired to function does this mean they are lazy? My point is that culturally prescribed gender roles lead to differing job performance and salaries, not innate genetic differences as implied by MRA types.
And? Besides the creative story stuff (though it lacked the part where the children taken away by protective services grow up and become delincuents, and then beat the woman, and then goes to court and is imprinsoned and escapes and takes as a hostage an old lady and... wow, quite a script!), that says nothing about the main issue: why is all this relevant for a company paying a salary?
If you don't get it it's not worth explaining.
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Those type of arguments are unworthy of a AS forum. They seem the classical used by neurotypicals ones.
Being called an irrational neurotypical is a compliment to me. It makes me feel more normal. Thank you.
I prefer being more normal in the social/partying/having friends side, and sticking to my AS side when it comes to debate rationally. But anyway, everyone has his preferences. Help yourself.
It seems MRA idiots get the words "rational" and "clueless" confused. Being stubborn and lacking empathy does not make you more "rational".
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23 May 2013, 1:12 pm
DialAForAwesome wrote:
meems wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
I seriously thought you guys were smarter and less sheep-like than this. But you guys for the most part are just as bad as NTs. I never thought I'd see some of the posters' true colors. Misandry is allowed and misogyny isn't. Why can't both be disallowed, instead of misogyny getting treated seriously while misandry is brushed aside?
And don't anybody say that nobody is being a misandrist here. If you give me a couple days, I can bring up quite a few examples.
This society isn';t about equality at all. It's about trying to one-up each other, like Max said earlier.
And don't anybody say that nobody is being a misandrist here. If you give me a couple days, I can bring up quite a few examples.
This society isn';t about equality at all. It's about trying to one-up each other, like Max said earlier.
Though the fact that those who point out "misandry" never point out misogyny, that says a lot. Occasionally acknowledging it isn't the same thing as actually caring about it.
So when you say you want fairness and equality and you talk about the misandry problem, you should be talking about the misogyny problem too. Because every time someone brings up sexism toward women on this forum, the first thing that comes up is "What about the misandry!! !!"
So, fair is fair.
How hypocritical is this?
People who cry "misogyny" all the time never point out misandry either. So how does this response make any logical sense?
I swear, the craziness I've had to deal with today. First, people crying "misogyny" every time someone disagrees with them, then I got into an argument on FB with a 35-year-old passive-aggressive dude.
I should seriously call off work today, for my sake.
I've seen misandry ONCE on WP, and it had been reported repeatedly and the thread was closed by the time I saw it.
So yeah, call off work because I'm not reporting imaginary misandry on WP.
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23 May 2013, 1:14 pm
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If you want some severe cases of misandry, look up any case where a woman killed a man, or more to the point, her b/f or husband. In each and every case, even if it has been proven there's no foul play, it comes up somehow that the man was evil, so that's why the woman killed him.
A good example of this is right now, in the Jodi Arias case. She basically became a hero for killing her own boyfriend, even though there was no proof of him having abused her, and only her word. If there was really abuse like she claimed, the evidence would be on her body. The only thing found were cuts on her arms, and it's thought that she inflicted those on herself. She stalked him, harassed him, and everything else, but is STILL thought to be a hero. If it was a man who did it, I'd guar-damn-tee every woman on this earth would move to have him slowly executed. At least this menace got what she deserved, a lifetime stay in prison. It usually doesn't end like that.
This is why equality is a farce these days. Very few want actual equality, and hide it under a mask of misandry or misogyny.
A good example of this is right now, in the Jodi Arias case. She basically became a hero for killing her own boyfriend, even though there was no proof of him having abused her, and only her word. If there was really abuse like she claimed, the evidence would be on her body. The only thing found were cuts on her arms, and it's thought that she inflicted those on herself. She stalked him, harassed him, and everything else, but is STILL thought to be a hero. If it was a man who did it, I'd guar-damn-tee every woman on this earth would move to have him slowly executed. At least this menace got what she deserved, a lifetime stay in prison. It usually doesn't end like that.
This is why equality is a farce these days. Very few want actual equality, and hide it under a mask of misandry or misogyny.
So are women killing men on WP or... I mean when are you going to find the misandry on WP?
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