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26 Feb 2016, 2:45 pm

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The secret word is (a**hole). It was used enough times that I figured I'd get to scream real loud every other post.

Has no one ever watched Peewee's Playhouse?!

if you take out all the first letter and last three letters of my response, you will get a synonym of the secret word. and I never saw peewee.



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26 Feb 2016, 3:03 pm

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How do we decide what constitutes unreasonable sensitivity?


I've no idea how you decide it. My process is case by case, according the the merits.

I can't offer you an all-purpose band-aid. However, I will always ignore the plight of those who take offence where none was offered. No intent? No foul.

Likewise, I am not responsible if my actions or words conjure up feelings relating to a bad experience another person may have had. Sure, it's a shame that someone stole your teddy bear when you were 5, but I'm not about to be a surrogate for your feelings about the thief.



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26 Feb 2016, 3:21 pm

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Sorry if you think we are a**holes for pointing out that you're being a**holes.


It might help if some people would wash their mouths out with soap before speaking. :roll:

Oh grow up.



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26 Feb 2016, 3:31 pm

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I am so over people being offended over trivial things, recently someone dressed up as Kanye West and she was branded Racist and she had to apologise, because somebody reckoned she had blackface she only put what looked like dark fake tan on.
The socialist left will haul anyone over the coals if they say anything that isn't PC.

Is pretending to be Kanye West considered non-PC? It is a fact that white people ridiculed and stereotyped blacks for decades using blackface. It's not unreasonable to be concerned about that.


Blackface parodied black people in general, because they were black. Dressing up like Kanye is dressing up like Kanye who is also black. Whether you dress up like him because you like him or admire him or his style, or are going as a couple costume with your ole lady who is going to dress like Kim Kardashian, yellow primer and all, or you just want to go around and interrupt people to tell them about Beyonce dressed like him, it's not the same. It's very far from the same.

Blacks who were around during vaudeville were helpless to do anything about blackface and being played up as fools or step m fetchits or mammy's or uncle Tom's or whatever other stereotype. They were also not portrayed accurately or even similarly. And the whole black race was being parodied.

Kanye on the other hand can sue the f**k out of you. His father in law was on OJs dream team. Hes got him and his own lawyer and his business lawyer and probably 150 lawyer fans who could gladly make your life miserable for a signed photo with kanye. Kanye cam also find out where you live and buy your house and maybe your neighborhood and the place you work at too. He can kick you out and fire you. He can also maybe take your ole lady away from you just by smiling.

Kanye is one person. He is a particular person and when dressing up like him you copy the style he chose. He's nowhere near generic. You also do kanye gestures and expressions and stupid Grammy s**t because that will never die. You are dressing up like a powerful, rich, famous, desired man, using his style and copying what you have seen him specifically do.

The only thing close to blackface that I could imagine for a Halloween costume, other than actual blackface, would be finding a stereotype within the black community and dressing like them and acting in ridiculously stereotyped and overdone ways of things that you don't actually see black people doing since they quit paying actors to do them on Good Times and Sanford and Son. That would be offensive. You would also be in great danger of getting yourbass deservedly kicked by the people you are making fun of.

Kanye? Not unless you want to have Kanye and Lil Wayne singing Mammy. And that would be offensive. But as regular irregular Kanye? Not so much.

Most of that was nonsense. Kanye couldn't do s**t to me, in fact he should thank me for certain unspecified professional services which I personally rendered to his wife and baby (and which she instagrammed). Anyway the blackface could very well have been innocent, but it's understandable that blacks don't take it that way. The only reason this blew up was certain pundits that make their living ridiculing political correctness.



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26 Feb 2016, 3:56 pm

AspE wrote:
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I am so over people being offended over trivial things, recently someone dressed up as Kanye West and she was branded Racist and she had to apologise, because somebody reckoned she had blackface she only put what looked like dark fake tan on.
The socialist left will haul anyone over the coals if they say anything that isn't PC.

Is pretending to be Kanye West considered non-PC? It is a fact that white people ridiculed and stereotyped blacks for decades using blackface. It's not unreasonable to be concerned about that.


Blackface parodied black people in general, because they were black. Dressing up like Kanye is dressing up like Kanye who is also black. Whether you dress up like him because you like him or admire him or his style, or are going as a couple costume with your ole lady who is going to dress like Kim Kardashian, yellow primer and all, or you just want to go around and interrupt people to tell them about Beyonce dressed like him, it's not the same. It's very far from the same.

Blacks who were around during vaudeville were helpless to do anything about blackface and being played up as fools or step m fetchits or mammy's or uncle Tom's or whatever other stereotype. They were also not portrayed accurately or even similarly. And the whole black race was being parodied.

Kanye on the other hand can sue the f**k out of you. His father in law was on OJs dream team. Hes got him and his own lawyer and his business lawyer and probably 150 lawyer fans who could gladly make your life miserable for a signed photo with kanye. Kanye cam also find out where you live and buy your house and maybe your neighborhood and the place you work at too. He can kick you out and fire you. He can also maybe take your ole lady away from you just by smiling.

Kanye is one person. He is a particular person and when dressing up like him you copy the style he chose. He's nowhere near generic. You also do kanye gestures and expressions and stupid Grammy s**t because that will never die. You are dressing up like a powerful, rich, famous, desired man, using his style and copying what you have seen him specifically do.

The only thing close to blackface that I could imagine for a Halloween costume, other than actual blackface, would be finding a stereotype within the black community and dressing like them and acting in ridiculously stereotyped and overdone ways of things that you don't actually see black people doing since they quit paying actors to do them on Good Times and Sanford and Son. That would be offensive. You would also be in great danger of getting yourbass deservedly kicked by the people you are making fun of.

Kanye? Not unless you want to have Kanye and Lil Wayne singing Mammy. And that would be offensive. But as regular irregular Kanye? Not so much.

Most of that was nonsense. Kanye couldn't do s**t to me, in fact he should thank me for certain unspecified professional services which I personally rendered to his wife and baby (and which she instagrammed). Anyway the blackface could very well have been innocent, but it's understandable that blacks don't take it that way. The only reason this blew up was certain pundits that make their living ridiculing political correctness.


It wasnt blackface, and putting a photo of those kids wearing a charcoal pore mask, that is very popular with that age group, online is not in any way politically incorrect.

It doesn't matter why it's all over the news. It bothers me that it happened and they were told to apologize for something they didn't do.

Why don't those trigger happy SJWs just sue the manufacturer if the fact that charcoal does the job and charcoal is black and facial pores get clogged so people put it on there upsets them so much? Make them take it off the market and take whatever they win in the start up a Victims R Us support group nationwide to help all these obviously severely hurting people?

Can you not even admit that it wasn't blackface and that it is black because the active ingredient is black, and they were using it according to the manufacturers instructions? Blackface is not the same as this mask. It photographed thicker and darker than it is. In the mirror it's a very grey color and the consistency of honey. It's obviously not makeup when you look at it. Can't you admit that it isn't what you keep calling it? Because if it is blackface then they should take it off the market, as blackface is offensive. Is it blackface or is it a charcoal containing pore mask?


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26 Feb 2016, 4:11 pm

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It wasnt blackface, and putting a photo of those kids wearing a charcoal pore mask, that is very popular with that age group, online is not in any way politically incorrect.

It doesn't matter why it's all over the news. It bothers me that it happened and they were told to apologize for something they didn't do.

Why don't those trigger happy SJWs just sue the manufacturer if the fact that charcoal does the job and charcoal is black and facial pores get clogged so people put it on there upsets them so much? Make them take it off the market and take whatever they win in the start up a Victims R Us support group nationwide to help all these obviously severely hurting people?
probably because it wasn't the fault of the manufacturer that it got abused by an idiot. blackface is considered abhorrent because of the way it was used to demean black people/allow whites to pretend to be slaves/black entertainers. one of the more famous blackface performers was named Daddy Jim Crow.



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26 Feb 2016, 4:29 pm

Fugu wrote:
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It wasnt blackface, and putting a photo of those kids wearing a charcoal pore mask, that is very popular with that age group, online is not in any way politically incorrect.

It doesn't matter why it's all over the news. It bothers me that it happened and they were told to apologize for something they didn't do.

Why don't those trigger happy SJWs just sue the manufacturer if the fact that charcoal does the job and charcoal is black and facial pores get clogged so people put it on there upsets them so much? Make them take it off the market and take whatever they win in the start up a Victims R Us support group nationwide to help all these obviously severely hurting people?
probably because it wasn't the fault of the manufacturer that it got abused by an idiot. blackface is considered abhorrent because of the way it was used to demean black people/allow whites to pretend to be slaves/black entertainers. one of the more famous blackface performers was named Daddy Jim Crow.



Which is why there's whiteface. :afro:



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26 Feb 2016, 5:09 pm

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OliveOilMom wrote:

It wasnt blackface, and putting a photo of those kids wearing a charcoal pore mask, that is very popular with that age group, online is not in any way politically incorrect.

It doesn't matter why it's all over the news. It bothers me that it happened and they were told to apologize for something they didn't do.

Why don't those trigger happy SJWs just sue the manufacturer if the fact that charcoal does the job and charcoal is black and facial pores get clogged so people put it on there upsets them so much? Make them take it off the market and take whatever they win in the start up a Victims R Us support group nationwide to help all these obviously severely hurting people?
probably because it wasn't the fault of the manufacturer that it got abused by an idiot. blackface is considered abhorrent because of the way it was used to demean black people/allow whites to pretend to be slaves/black entertainers. one of the more famous blackface performers was named Daddy Jim Crow.



Which is why there's whiteface. :afro:


Whiteface is what you wear to make fun of Goths. Also eyeliner like The Crow. ;-)


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26 Feb 2016, 5:13 pm

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Whiteface is what you wear to make fun of Goths. Also eyeliner like The Crow. ;-)

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Why are you racist against goths? They can't help it that they were born pale white with poor fashion sense and a negative attitude.
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26 Feb 2016, 5:26 pm

Fugu wrote:
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It wasnt blackface, and putting a photo of those kids wearing a charcoal pore mask, that is very popular with that age group, online is not in any way politically incorrect.

It doesn't matter why it's all over the news. It bothers me that it happened and they were told to apologize for something they didn't do.

Why don't those trigger happy SJWs just sue the manufacturer if the fact that charcoal does the job and charcoal is black and facial pores get clogged so people put it on there upsets them so much? Make them take it off the market and take whatever they win in the start up a Victims R Us support group nationwide to help all these obviously severely hurting people?
probably because it wasn't the fault of the manufacturer that it got abused by an idiot. blackface is considered abhorrent because of the way it was used to demean black people/allow whites to pretend to be slaves/black entertainers. one of the more famous blackface performers was named Daddy Jim Crow.


OK. I'll ask one question at a time so it will get answered. How was it abused? It was used as the package said and they didn't even think of blackface when taking the photo. There was no intent there and they apologized for the unintended offense. There isn't anything in this photo that even implies anything to do with anything racial.

So how was it abused please?


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26 Feb 2016, 5:42 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
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Fugu wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:

It wasnt blackface, and putting a photo of those kids wearing a charcoal pore mask, that is very popular with that age group, online is not in any way politically incorrect.

It doesn't matter why it's all over the news. It bothers me that it happened and they were told to apologize for something they didn't do.

Why don't those trigger happy SJWs just sue the manufacturer if the fact that charcoal does the job and charcoal is black and facial pores get clogged so people put it on there upsets them so much? Make them take it off the market and take whatever they win in the start up a Victims R Us support group nationwide to help all these obviously severely hurting people?
probably because it wasn't the fault of the manufacturer that it got abused by an idiot. blackface is considered abhorrent because of the way it was used to demean black people/allow whites to pretend to be slaves/black entertainers. one of the more famous blackface performers was named Daddy Jim Crow.



Which is why there's whiteface. :afro:


Whiteface is what you wear to make fun of Goths. Also eyeliner like The Crow. ;-)



You WISH! Whiteface is what you wear to make fun of white people. Just like a mullet, a wifebeater(with a confederate flag), and a mouthpiece with a missin' tooth is whatcha wear to make fun of southerners. :mrgreen:



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26 Feb 2016, 5:51 pm

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I had an experience today in line at the grocery store. The oriental girl behind's dumplings fell over the belt divider and mixed with my groceries. The clerk asked if they were mine and I said no and indicated they were the girl's. She said she should have known that. At first I thought she meant because it was Asian food and the girl was Asian. But the clerk didn't mean that. She then said, makes sense that all the dumplings belong to the same order.
Anyway I thought this is a good example of something that could be interpreted as racist, but isn't.


Oriental is not the preferred nomenclature dude; please, Asian.

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26 Feb 2016, 5:51 pm

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Notice the very consistent straw men:

Anti SJW: "I'm tired of people going out of their way to be offended by things that require effort to take offense at".

SJW: "Who wouldn't be offended by racism and people in blackface!"

Anti SJW: "Who said anything about blackface? I was talking about people being offended because someone said they like meritocracy.

SJW: "Why are you okay with blackface? You're probably a Nazi, or maybe in the KKK..."

It's startlingly similar, almost as if they're all working off the same playbook...


^ This.

It's two sides of the same dumb coin.

I'm tired of the perpetually offended, and I'm equally sick of the crowd that lives to be "offended" by their offense.


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26 Feb 2016, 6:02 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
Whiteface is what you wear to make fun of Goths. Also eyeliner like The Crow. ;-)

[joke]
Why are you racist against goths? They can't help it that they were born pale white with poor fashion sense and a negative attitude.
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Know what happens when Goths don't notice the trigger warning and read the article anyway? They turn into emos.

Sorry, everybody jokes about emos. Even emos joke on emos. When they joke that is. ;-)

(I really want to tell you about the "international hand sign for emo" that my ex goth, ex emo, ex cutter but still looks suspiciously like a goth, daughter showed me. It was insensitive as hell and funny too and she showed it to me when we were alone in the car. But I won't. Funny or not, that one really is offensive, considering.)


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26 Feb 2016, 6:12 pm

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It wasnt blackface, and putting a photo of those kids wearing a charcoal pore mask, that is very popular with that age group, online is not in any way politically incorrect.

It doesn't matter why it's all over the news. It bothers me that it happened and they were told to apologize for something they didn't do.

Why don't those trigger happy SJWs just sue the manufacturer if the fact that charcoal does the job and charcoal is black and facial pores get clogged so people put it on there upsets them so much? Make them take it off the market and take whatever they win in the start up a Victims R Us support group nationwide to help all these obviously severely hurting people?

Can you not even admit that it wasn't blackface and that it is black because the active ingredient is black, and they were using it according to the manufacturers instructions? Blackface is not the same as this mask. It photographed thicker and darker than it is. In the mirror it's a very grey color and the consistency of honey. It's obviously not makeup when you look at it. Can't you admit that it isn't what you keep calling it? Because if it is blackface then they should take it off the market, as blackface is offensive. Is it blackface or is it a charcoal containing pore mask?

I know they did it in all innocence, but they should apologize for being ignorant about the history of blackface. I almost made the same mistake on Halloween one year, when I dressed up as a shaman with a plastic bone through my nose. Only my own laziness saved me from covering myself in black paint.



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26 Feb 2016, 6:14 pm

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Notice the very consistent straw men:

Anti SJW: "I'm tired of people going out of their way to be offended by things that require effort to take offense at".

SJW: "Who wouldn't be offended by racism and people in blackface!"

Anti SJW: "Who said anything about blackface? I was talking about people being offended because someone said they like meritocracy.

SJW: "Why are you okay with blackface? You're probably a Nazi, or maybe in the KKK..."

It's startlingly similar, almost as if they're all working off the same playbook...


^ This.

It's two sides of the same dumb coin.

I'm tired of the perpetually offended, and I'm equally sick of the crowd that lives to be "offended" by their offense.


Im not offended by them at all, even though they always label negative emotion that way IN MY EXPERIENCE. Im just annoyed by people making a big deal out of nothing and then bowing up and throwing a temper fit until everybody either gives in out of sheer exhaustion, shuts up and apologizes immediately so people don't think they are whatever ist they have just been loudly and publically accused of being, or until they get enough people watching and tweeting their current victimization by the accused defending himself that they have enough proof and witnesses to temporarily satisfy their need to show the world how terrible *those people* are to them, and reinforce their own self image of the poor abused and mistreated soul who JUST WANTS PEOPLE TO NOT OFFEND OTHERS!

DISCLAIMER The above is only my opinion. I'm not bullying you, nor your group nor even Auburn fans.

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