He was being unamerican. Next time we might have to kill him
Case in point.
Other than the fact that that cute obama quote was reported by one and only one person who also happens to be a super gun man (who also happened to write two anti-obama books) and has zero verifiable proof, the fact that someone may say "i personally don't think people should have guns" does not equate to "i'm going to disarm a country so i can subjugate and eliminate citizens as i wish". And aside from the fact that i dare you to produce verifiable proof of that hitler quote - other than a meme, you're eternally proving the aforementioned point that some people have said pretty nasty things about obama and yet not been beaten for doing so.
You dare me? I owe you nothing. I've already said I'm done producing any proof since the Left never does. I'm going to do the same thing your side has been doing all along - spout off whatever infuriating crap is on the top of my head whether it's true or not.
I see your Asswipe getting compared to Hitler sure got a rise out of you.
I've posted plenty of links with valid proof,but you have blinders on and only see what you want to.All you provide are links to wingnut sites that are slanted totally to the right.Ive never seen and real proof in any of your links.So I guess I'll post one that slants totally to the left.Just for fun.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/08/23 ... s-bedside/
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If obama acted remotely like trump is, they would have.
Trump is not being called that because woe is him just like other candidates and yet this mean ol media wants to beat him; nor because he's a big bad (superhero) outsider who scares 'the elite' so they're making stuff up.
He's called that because and only because of the words that come out of his mouth in combination with his shockingly devoted followers who, as he boasted, wouldn't blink in their faith if he shot someone.
Yeah for instance it's a little bit fascist/nazi esque when he's up their joking about beating up protesters/opposers, and has also had people who appeared to be doing nothing escorted out of his events because he doesn't like how they look. Forgive me if that makes him come off a little fascist like...don't see how its 'inciting violence' to make an observation.
Apparently I am not the only person that made the following connection either:
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As I've stated several times now: he hates Muslims, he hates Mexicans, he makes fun of people with disabilities, he publicly said he would date his daughter if they werent related (SO SICK), scammed many people out of money with his "university" and so on. My guess is that many of the people rooting for him don't realize how much crap he has done and gotten away with. He's a businessman, so money can pay off anything to sweep it under the rug basically.
Do you really want him in charge? I have a feeling he would tick off so many countries and start a war (or at the least- many conflicts that others would have to fix for him). Senate and house likely wont be on his side, so at least they can block all the nonsense schemes he has planned for the USA.
The other presidential candidates arent perfect, but I honestly think Trump is the worst of the bunch.
You've been lied to about everything
Saddam Hussein was responsible for that.
Sanctions are an act of war directly against the people of another country, it never punishes the ruling class but rather the most vulnerable. If you wonder why America is SO hated in the middle east and why 9/11 happened then there is a hint. Sticking our nose all over the world in other country's business has made us and the world a lot less safe.
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If obama acted remotely like trump is, they would have.
Trump is not being called that because woe is him just like other candidates and yet this mean ol media wants to beat him; nor because he's a big bad (superhero) outsider who scares 'the elite' so they're making stuff up.
He's called that because and only because of the words that come out of his mouth in combination with his shockingly devoted followers who, as he boasted, wouldn't blink in their faith if he shot someone.
Obama has done much worst, he actually has blood on his hands. Hillary and Bill have done WAY WAY worse. Talk is cheap, actually look at their actions. It's pure nonsense.
Trump is Hitler because a 78 year old John McGraw punched 26 year old Rakeem Jones, something tells me Rakeem is going to be okay. Trump is Hitler because there is an organized campaign to disrupt and shutdown his events funded by a foreign billionaire? This billionaire actually was a Nazi collaborator that stole from other jews and probably worse. It doesn't matter, what he did he'll never be able to wash away. Trump is Hitler because he didn't want protesters to be gently massaged and soothed by the crowd
Hitler killed something like 20 million people, calling somebody Hitler is not only inciting violence against that person and extremely offensive but totally irresponsible. No, Trump does not compare to Hitler at all you sick freak and to say that is to be not only a liar but evidence of their complete lack of substance. The establishment have no leg to stand on, they're record and policies speak for themselves and they are beyond defense. None of these dodos can elaborate on anything, Bernie Sanders and the gang of neoconservatives are all much more extreme and unrealistic in their policies. Trump represents existential threat to the entrenched oligarchy in this country and they're throwing the kitchen sink at him, who knows how far these people will go to protect themselves. They seem prepared to completely usurp our democracy and the will of the voters, would they kill? I suspect they would.
We killed probably over a million people in the Middle East since 2001, we killed many many more in southeast Asia during Vietnam. Sanctions by the Clinton administration killed 500,000 Iraqi children, think about how belligerent our foreign policy is which seems more Nazi like than anything. No end in sight, our so called allies are literally raping this country and taking everything from us. We subsidize a lot of the world's QoL and now it's time people pay their fair share or that subsidy is gone. China does it, South Korea does it, Japan does it, pretty much everywhere that has industry protects it because having this strong industrial base makes your country stronger and safer because of it. A service economy means you're a servant and always beholden. Why can't these other countries who we watched grow from rice paddies to the richest countries in the world pay us a fair share for our part in that? Why can't Europe pay its fair share more than 70 years of protection, we rebuilt the continent and all these socialist paradises over there only exist because the US has subsidized their existence. These are among the richest countries in the world now, they might of been 'primitive' comparatively decades ago but they're killers now and bend us over with ease. This desperate quest for global hegemony has left us as slaves to these bloated ungrateful so called allies of ours, they only like us as much it benefits them. No more. The alternatives are that things get a lot worse in this country, it will eventually start looking like Latin America with a tiny elitist ruling class a vast vast underclass of have-nots.
I don't think anyone is saying that trump 'is' Hitler, just some of what he expresses sound a bit Hitler like...which well it does. The guy is known for getting up on his podium, passionately yelling rhetoric and scapegoating various demographics as 'the problem' quite similar to what trump does. I don't think trump would try and re-invent the holocaust but he certainly has the unity through hate down. One does not have to do all the bad that Hitler did to have similarities to the man...there was a time before Hitler was a dictator and before he accomplished all his evil so to me its important to be wary of candidates for president who shares traits with him.
Also Trump clearly doesn't care much for our rights since he thinks its appropriate to encourage supporters to beat up protesters, when we have the right to protest. And you have yet to explain how Trump is a threat to the oligarchy...because he himself is one of the wealthy elite billionaires with influence over the government via wealth. Only difference with trump will be instead of having a puppet candidate who caters to the very wealthy over the people we'll just have a wealthy elite himself in office and forgo the puppet politician. But you think trump is actually going to put the people first before his ego and his wealth?
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If obama acted remotely like trump is, they would have.
Trump is not being called that because woe is him just like other candidates and yet this mean ol media wants to beat him; nor because he's a big bad (superhero) outsider who scares 'the elite' so they're making stuff up.
He's called that because and only because of the words that come out of his mouth in combination with his shockingly devoted followers who, as he boasted, wouldn't blink in their faith if he shot someone.
Yeah for instance it's a little bit fascist/nazi esque when he's up their joking about beating up protesters/opposers, and has also had people who appeared to be doing nothing escorted out of his events because he doesn't like how they look. Forgive me if that makes him come off a little fascist like...don't see how its 'inciting violence' to make an observation.
Apparently I am not the only person that made the following connection either:
I know you like music Sweetleaf so run up on stage at the next concert you go to and start cursing the act and their fans out, what do you think would happen? I'm pretty sure I would get body slammed off the stage or stomped by an entourage of people. A lot of people consider certain forms of music as inciting violence, do you agree with this?
I don't think Trump has encouraged violence at all, I think he has been a victim of an organized campaign to disrupt and ultimately stop his events by confrontational violent 'protesters'. Who has been hurt? It's just a nonsense media narrative where ever you got it.
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If obama acted remotely like trump is, they would have.
Trump is not being called that because woe is him just like other candidates and yet this mean ol media wants to beat him; nor because he's a big bad (superhero) outsider who scares 'the elite' so they're making stuff up.
He's called that because and only because of the words that come out of his mouth in combination with his shockingly devoted followers who, as he boasted, wouldn't blink in their faith if he shot someone.
Yeah for instance it's a little bit fascist/nazi esque when he's up their joking about beating up protesters/opposers, and has also had people who appeared to be doing nothing escorted out of his events because he doesn't like how they look. Forgive me if that makes him come off a little fascist like...don't see how its 'inciting violence' to make an observation.
Apparently I am not the only person that made the following connection either:
I know you like music Sweetleaf so run up on stage at the next concert you go to and start cursing the act and their fans out, what do you think would happen? I'm pretty sure I would get body slammed off the stage or stomped by an entourage of people. A lot of people consider certain forms of music as inciting violence, do you agree with this?
I don't think Trump has encouraged violence at all, I think he has been a victim of an organized campaign to disrupt and ultimately stop his events by confrontational violent 'protesters'. Who has been hurt? It's just a nonsense media narrative where ever you got it.
Pretty sure as soon as I tried to climb on stage the bouncers would stop me, and probably kick me out of the show if I didn't cease that behavior, I wouldn't even make it up onto the stage to start cursing the band or its fans. The only time people get body slammed or are at risk of being stomped is if they go in the mosh pit and start hitting and kicking people.
And not really sure your point, calling out opposition from the audience of a political rally isn't akin to climbing on stage at a concert.
Also I got that he encourages violence from his own mouth, here is an example:
And I also believe I posted one the other day with various clips of him condoning violence.
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If obama acted remotely like trump is, they would have.
Trump is not being called that because woe is him just like other candidates and yet this mean ol media wants to beat him; nor because he's a big bad (superhero) outsider who scares 'the elite' so they're making stuff up.
He's called that because and only because of the words that come out of his mouth in combination with his shockingly devoted followers who, as he boasted, wouldn't blink in their faith if he shot someone.
Obama has done much worst, he actually has blood on his hands. Hillary and Bill have done WAY WAY worse. Talk is cheap, actually look at their actions. It's pure nonsense.
Trump is Hitler because a 78 year old John McGraw punched 26 year old Rakeem Jones, something tells me Rakeem is going to be okay. Trump is Hitler because there is an organized campaign to disrupt and shutdown his events funded by a foreign billionaire? This billionaire actually was a Nazi collaborator that stole from other jews and probably worse. It doesn't matter, what he did he'll never be able to wash away. Trump is Hitler because he didn't want protesters to be gently massaged and soothed by the crowd
Hitler killed something like 20 million people, calling somebody Hitler is not only inciting violence against that person and extremely offensive but totally irresponsible. No, Trump does not compare to Hitler at all you sick freak and to say that is to be not only a liar but evidence of their complete lack of substance. The establishment have no leg to stand on, they're record and policies speak for themselves and they are beyond defense. None of these dodos can elaborate on anything, Bernie Sanders and the gang of neoconservatives are all much more extreme and unrealistic in their policies. Trump represents existential threat to the entrenched oligarchy in this country and they're throwing the kitchen sink at him, who knows how far these people will go to protect themselves. They seem prepared to completely usurp our democracy and the will of the voters, would they kill? I suspect they would.
We killed probably over a million people in the Middle East since 2001, we killed many many more in southeast Asia during Vietnam. Sanctions by the Clinton administration killed 500,000 Iraqi children, think about how belligerent our foreign policy is which seems more Nazi like than anything. No end in sight, our so called allies are literally raping this country and taking everything from us. We subsidize a lot of the world's QoL and now it's time people pay their fair share or that subsidy is gone. China does it, South Korea does it, Japan does it, pretty much everywhere that has industry protects it because having this strong industrial base makes your country stronger and safer because of it. A service economy means you're a servant and always beholden. Why can't these other countries who we watched grow from rice paddies to the richest countries in the world pay us a fair share for our part in that? Why can't Europe pay its fair share more than 70 years of protection, we rebuilt the continent and all these socialist paradises over there only exist because the US has subsidized their existence. These are among the richest countries in the world now, they might of been 'primitive' comparatively decades ago but they're killers now and bend us over with ease. This desperate quest for global hegemony has left us as slaves to these bloated ungrateful so called allies of ours, they only like us as much it benefits them. No more. The alternatives are that things get a lot worse in this country, it will eventually start looking like Latin America with a tiny elitist ruling class a vast vast underclass of have-nots.
I don't think anyone is saying that trump 'is' Hitler, just some of what he expresses sound a bit Hitler like...which well it does. The guy is known for getting up on his podium, passionately yelling rhetoric and scapegoating various demographics as 'the problem' quite similar to what trump does. I don't think trump would try and re-invent the holocaust but he certainly has the unity through hate down. One does not have to do all the bad that Hitler did to have similarities to the man...there was a time before Hitler was a dictator and before he accomplished all his evil so to me its important to be wary of candidates for president who shares traits with him.
Also Trump clearly doesn't care much for our rights since he thinks its appropriate to encourage supporters to beat up protesters, when we have the right to protest. And you have yet to explain how Trump is a threat to the oligarchy...because he himself is one of the wealthy elite billionaires with influence over the government via wealth. Only difference with trump will be instead of having a puppet candidate who caters to the very wealthy over the people we'll just have a wealthy elite himself in office and forgo the puppet politician. But you think trump is actually going to put the people first before his ego and his wealth?
How is he scapegoating demographics? This is the problem with political correctness, we literally can't confront the problem of illegal immigration or international terrorism without being accused of being racist. The Democrats are literally saying don't deport anyone even the criminals in this cynical ploy for power, they're panderers just as much as anyone. There somewhere between 11-30 illegal immigrants in this country, this is a large part of the reason why wages have been stagnated and our inner cities so devastated over the last couple decades. Now are we gonna deport all these people? No but we can't start from the perspective that we can't deport anyone and we need to import more legal immigrants on top of it, you can recognize how this hurts your quality of life? There are a lot of issues that unless you live in a border state that you cannot truly appreciate, there are literal cartel militia's that control territory in these long reaching drug corridors and it isn't safe to wander off into mountains here. People disappear all the time, it's a rugged hostile environment with vast open spaces so it is bound to happen but there are killers in our midst.
So Trump talks tough to people that try to silence him, it does not bother me. We need more toughness, we need a warrior to fight thru the massive shitstorm, I'd say he's handled it pretty well all things considered. Is he suppose to let these people wreck his campaign?
It's nonsense to make any comparison to Hitler unless you are implying they will kill millions because that's all that matters, he was a vegetarian and dog lover too but why it's not important. It's just a fallacy. I do not believe Trump will kill millions, I do not believe he is going to invade other countries, I do not believe any of these insinuations. I think the authoritarians we have in office right now who can barely keep a straight face that they stand for love and kindness are much more dangerous. Trump has much more upside than downside, I think it's worth the gamble that he might be able to do something good versus more of the same. Is he liar? I guess we can call him the Republican Obama then when it is all over.
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Maybe trump really isn't the racist he implies that he is; maybe it's just a matter of performance art on his part. But Trump has unleashed something ugly here. He's made it permissible to voice the ugliest thoughts people have concerning non-white citizens, and to back it up with violence, especially since more and more of the ranks of his supporters are being filled with known white supremacists. It's the same with Palin's supporters sniping about how Obama wasn't a real American, which was code for something other than white, which spawned the birther movement, and the crap that Obama is a secret Muslim. What Trump has unleashed may just prove to be far worse, even if he loses.
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source?
also who cares who they support?
How is it more uglier than say black lives matter extremists or these college marxist? It's nonsense. What violence? What violence that even compares? Seriously a 78 year old took a swing a at someone trying to shut down an event? Are Trump supporters being confrontational? It's just nonsense. What are these ugliest thoughts? Like clips of Trump saying whatever means nothing, I do not care about what he has says in response to his this organized campaign against him. Not everybody has protesters, Trump has dozens of people that sit and wait in the crowd just to leap up and to derail and essentially shut down the event from happening.
source?
also who cares who they support?
How is it more uglier than say black lives matter extremists or these college marxist? It's nonsense. What violence? What violence that even compares? Seriously a 78 year old took a swing a at someone trying to shut down an event? Are Trump supporters being confrontational? It's just nonsense. What are these ugliest thoughts? Like clips of Trump saying whatever means nothing, I do not care about what he has says in response to his this organized campaign against him. Not everybody has protesters, Trump has dozens of people that sit and wait in the crowd just to leap up and to derail and essentially shut down the event from happening.
Well he was endorsed by former kkk grand wizard David duke. And how exactly was the guy trying to shut down the event?
Who cares who David Duke supports? Trump has disavowed him plenty of times so to repeat that crap over and over again is really just a smear. If you run into an event and start screaming at the top of lungs then you are trying to disrupt the event and trying to shut it down. That's not tolerated anywhere and if there was an organized campaign aimed at harassing Barack Obama it would shut down quick.
It's a distraction, Trump is the best on most of the issues and on ones that the establishment of either party don't endorse. That's all the matters, everything else is just misinformation and just lies.
God knows how crazy people would go if Trump organized a campaign of essentially terror on another candidate, god knows what that idiot from Canton wanted to do. Trump and his supporters are the victims not these so called protesters.
It's a distraction, Trump is the best on most of the issues and on ones that the establishment of either party don't endorse. That's all the matters, everything else is just misinformation and just lies.
God knows how crazy people would go if Trump organized a campaign of essentially terror on another candidate, god knows what that idiot from Canton wanted to do. Trump and his supporters are the victims not these so called protesters.
Trump hates Muslims and Mexicans- that MATTERS because its sick and wrong. He made fun of a reporter with a muscle disorder (then claimed he didn't even know the guy). We dont need a racist jerk of a president, period. Let's see here what else has he done- he started a university that scammed people out of money. He claims innocence on it of course. Trump also said he would date his daughter if they werent related. Joke or not- thats pretty wrong as well. Please actually read about candidates before saying they are "best on most of the issues". A horrible person doesn't instantly get immunity from all the evil they've done.
