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I take issue with nurseangela's disparagement of anyone that disagrees with her.

I agree with Marshall on the notion that anyone on the receiving end of disrespect, should have the right to reciprocate in a congruent manner.

Some do. Some abuse every system there is, including 'having a job' and not doing 1/10th of what the coworkers do. Or driving in the off-ramp lane and then cutting back into traffic at the last second so as to bypass ten minutes of sitting that everyone else is doing.

But a select group abusing does not mean most do, nor that most should be treated as such; *especially* in a supposedly supportive environment filled with people *unable* to work who have to listen to that everywhere else. But, if you do want to state that opinion, as long as mods say you can, you can. My point really is that after a while of doing so, don't be suprised if there's "harsh" opinions thrown back.

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In the US, it depends on why you're out and the prognosis. There is a reassessment every few years. Though that is just eligibility. There are also some people who are on it for a period, manage to improve or find some rare, super-ada accommodating place, go back to work, and close their case.
https://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-cdrs-ussi.htm

What people don't realize is that employers discriminate against people who haven't worked recently. They also discriminate against people who are "overqualified" due to having an advanced degree. I am currently on SSI and looking for work. Just because I might be able to work now doesn't mean employers are willing to hire me.

The people on the receiving end of the most disrespect here, whether directed at them by name or not, are conservatives and religious people; people like, say, Angela, or Raptor. Maybe they'd be nicer if people weren't sh*****g on them all the time...

The thing is, there's a lot more to treating people decently beyond simple name calling.
"Next!" For example, is rude and dismissive.



You mean when i said i'd like to see any proof behind the memes and that your post was proving a point as i didn't find it to be inciting violence? If that is "not acting favorably", then no wonder you respond as you do.

However, part of the response, just like the assumption that i care if you have asd and would say differently if you did, seems there are these set pre-conceived notions.. You seem to decide and announce he's "my" obama, "my" left, i think of obama as lord and master and that i'm all kinds of upset that you call him hitler and asswipe. None of which are true, but it seems you've already decided that.. It seems anyone who disagrees with you automatically becomes part of this vile "you" orb.



It says that despite the fact that i tend to walk on eggshells around you lest i fall into your line of fire, i felt that what you've been saying about people on disability was not okay on this forum and it shouldn't just be 'talking to marshall about his response' as if it came out of nowhere and the prior words were innocent and sweet.
And it says that i felt it strong enough to put myself in your sights even though i knew from now on, i'll be on your list too.

If you're upset by how people are interacting, maybe part of it is because of the things you say. Not because you're left, right, or other, and they don't hold your opinion... (I don't agree with everything *anyone* here says); but because words matter. It's not reasonable to expect to say whatever we want, whenever we want, and as long as we don't technically call someone a name, think everyone will respond with rose petals.

I think some of the things you say are pretty funny and, sometimes you have a good point or i can see where you're coming from about something. And, as i said a while ago, i appreciated that it seemed like you tried to understand how/why asd people think differently. But, since i'm already on your s**t list, i'll say - i've honestly wondered lately if you don't just come here to expel your angst of the day. And it has nothing to do with whether or not you call someone a name.


Yeah.

You also have to account for your absence. And reality is, being out on disability is seen as a risk for a company. It's far easier to not hire than potentially deal with fmla, ada, someone not ready to return to work,etc. In many ways, it's a blackball.

What? You can't be on the fence about torture! Its a war crime. We can't very well object to our people getting tortured if we do it too. We aren't North Korea. Who would Jesus torture?

This country tortures every day, our history is inseparable from torture from the very beginning if you want to be honest

but Bill Clinton, George W Bush, and Barack Obama has all made extensive use of torture

Of course they did....but it doesn't make it right.

We have to have some kind of ideal, some kind of restraint--otherwise, people will start committing genocide left and right. We'll go down the tubes.

I'm opposed to torture.For two reasons,first it's obviously inhumane,second I don't see how it would be that effective.People would give false info just to get it to stop.

That doesn't make it right. Solitary confinement is also torture. As a society we will come to realize this eventually.

If it weren't at least partially effective there wouldn't be such a temptation to use it. I don't trust governments with that power.

Right now I'd say the ones getting the most disrespect are the disabled,maybe we'd be nicer to the nurse if she actually showed she possessed a smidgen of compassion.The majority of people on this forum are nuerodiverse,with varying degrees of ability to function.b***h about politics all you want,it's fair game and expect a possible flame war from opinionated participants.But check the insults that we all just want a free ride off the system and could function just fine if we really wanted to.Sure there is some fraud,always that to deal with with humans.Some people just cheat,even if they had a job,you know they'd be boosting office supplies,calling in sick when they aren't and cheating on their taxes.

No way is this ever right.When people behave like this they are worse than animals,animals are never deliberately cruel.
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http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=8560

The whole problem with socialism is group blame. The wrong is that the actual people who permanently ruined the economy and destroyed the middle class should have been jailed and not bailed out. Not every uber rich person should be punished for the actions of thier brethren. As autistics we should be sensitive to group shaming.

Democratic socialism isn't about punishing the rich. It's about making the system more fair and not letting the vulnerable suffer. The money has to come from somewhere (unless you want to deal with unreasonable inflation rates). It simply makes more moral sense to tax those that don't absolutely need all the money they make at a higher rate. It has nothing to do with punishment. The current tax system primarily burdens the middle and upper-middle class while the rich find loopholes and pay lower rates. People like Bernie want to fix this. The majority of politicians favor the status quo (or want to cut taxes which will increase the deficit).