Social security gun ban is coming :(

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Don't you realize how ridiculous it is to assume you can keep someone from getting a gun if they really want one?
I didn't say you were advocating anything,just asked a few questions.Noticed that you evaded some of them.
Is Puff the Magic Dragon legal where you live? Do you have a medical card? If not,look how easy it is to get something you're not suppose to have.

I call that extortion, don't make a law because we won't follow it anyway? Why have any laws at all? The law still applies after the fact. Say they catch you with a gun, or someone reports it, you will get in trouble, they will take it away.

Same for you and that big ol' bong you're taking rips out of.
The odds of getting caught with one are kind of slim,unless you go waving it around like an idiot.Then you deserve to have it removed.
Do you sit on your front lawn sucking on a spliff?
Some laws are just stupid,and one should discreetly break them every chance one gets.
Think of it as a form of civil disobedience.Notice I said some,not all before you get going on anarchy.

Read the actual proposed rule change not some left leaning site


Do you think Aspies are mentally ill?

Do you not care that the law clearly states only a judge can determine someone mentally defective. What social security is trying to do is illegal. No federal agency is to determine people mentally defective. And no determination of mentally defective is to be made using medical determination for disability or aid.

Determinations are suppose to be made on the likely herd of the individual being a threat to others or themselves, which is why it's made by a court where both sides can have their input.

Being on disability doesn't make someone dangerous. At no time is a person being disturbed or they'd capacity of violence taken into account. Merely a hey they were born different so they'll mentally defective. No court not mental review no determination of the persons mentally well being at all.

Just some burocrat sitting in a office in dc labeling millions of people mentally defective based solely on how they were born in one pass.
If you disagree you can ask him to review it and he can a. Decide the same thing he did because how dare you say he's wrong, b. Wait a year and then the appeal is just auto sticky rejected without any way to appeal again. Oh and you have 30 days from when they label you defective to appeal, oh and you won't know when that happen, because they'll send you a letter saying you might be labeled defective might not. Then nothing else. So do you appeal then? It's a costly thing to appeal and if they haven't determined you defective yet you can't appeal and wasted so the money. Oh and they know you can't afford to appeal anyways you only get 700 a month and they limit you to under 2,000 savings, and lawyers and all the documents needed and the appeal fee are all way more than that.

So it's illegal and they made it so you can't even appeal their illegal action. One day your a law abiding citizen next your labeled defective, lose your job, and are a felon for having guns. Next is either prison or death in a shootout with swat when they illegally raid your home.

Anyone who believes in laws and due process or supports Aspies would never support this policy. The people who wrote the ordinal law oppose it, all past presidents opposed such action, most medial groups oppose it. Only people for it are anti gun people throwing a tantrum because they couldn't get any of their gun control laws passed.

Yes, people break the law, especially if they disagree with it, or if they have something to gain from ignoring it. This isn't about whether I break laws, or whether people will break gun laws. I expect them to. But there are still situations where the law is relevant. I happen to disagree with marijuana prohibition. Many people disagree with prohibitions on guns. This is irrelevant to the larger issue of whether there should be a process in place to deny gun applications and concealed carry permits to the mentally ill. Illegal guns are a separate issue.

There is already a process,it's called a background check.I passed,I get to have a gun.Its really that simple.Its reasonable to try and prevent violent offenders from getting a gun the legal route.
But for example, take someone in treatment for OCD.They wash their hands obsessively,but aren't violent.There isn't a valid reason why they can't have a gun.Same for other disorders,the statistics prove put that the majority of the mentally ill are not violent.So why should our rights be removed because people like you have an unreasonable fear (prejudice??)of us?Just to make you feel safer?

I would add certain forms of mental illness to the background check. I would make exceptions for types of mental illness that do not affect judgement.

which forms of mental illness would you add? and these illnesses would have to be UNCONTROLLED to make taking away gun rights anywhere near fair.

i totally agree that folks who have been convicted of violent felonies should not have guns. also think any domestic abuser should not have a gun. that's got nothing to do with mental illness. it has to do with a tendency toward violence, something the overwhelming majority of folks with mental illness don't have. even when i was totally in another world and scared out of my mind, i never once considered hurting anyone. this is how most folks with mental illness are. a disservice is done when people aren't trusted to make important life decisions. next thing you know, they can't be trusted with a job. that's how it is unfairly now, due to beliefs like yours, AspE. there are folks on disability for no other reason than no one will give them a chance at a job.

If they are controlled with drugs, the mentally ill often go off their medication, because they are mentally ill and often paranoid. I would add, schizophrenia, schizotypal disorder, depression, and bi-polar. By no means a complete list.

Some people don't go off their meds.Take mine everyday.All these can vary in severity.People on the milder end that have no paranoia,that are able to manage their own affairs should be able to have a gun.
I'd be on your no gun list,even tho I've never attempted suicide or been charged with a violent crime.
I mentioned earlier that the "sane" are just as likely to have bad judgement as the mentally ill.It all depends on the individual.

I know, like I said, it's the least we can do. "Normal people do it too" is not an argument in my book. But who are we kidding, our government sucks the NRA's cock, they aren't going to do s**t.

Im not or ever have been a NRA member.I'll have to look it up,but I think they want the mentally ill to be disarmed.
Anyway,statics prove that the "sane" commit more violent crimes than the neurologically "enhanced."Disarm them first,then I'll feel safer.

The NRA is the USA's largest gun lobbying organization, and they want to loosen the law so that more mentally ill people can get guns.
Don’t let the NRA set policy on guns and mental health

Basically, current law removes gun rights for those involuntarily committed. This remains in effect until the person applies for reinstatement to a court or other body. The NRA wants to restore gun rights immediately upon release.

i have bipolar. i haven't been off my meds in 21 years. my husband has schizophrenia and a similar medication history. you are penalizing people who can't be differentiated from you in any significant way.

and the main reasons folks go off their meds are intolerable side effects and docs who don't adjust or change those meds or docs who don't explain that treatment is for life like high blood pressure. paranoid? really? do your prejudices know no bound? might happen occasionally, but not like you say.

if guns should be taken from folks with mental illness without suicidality or homicidality, they should be taken from everyone.

If they are released,then they have been deemed not a threat to themselves or others.If the care facility releases a dangerous person,that's on them.I do realize that the mental health care system sucks,so it's a possibility that a menace could be turned out.But that happen all the times with prisons,violent SANE rapist out on parole,out raping again.All the more reason to have a nice gun.
I was going on La Pierre's comment about a registry of the mentally ill.Like as you do for sex offenders???I haven't committed a crime,so why should I be on a registry??
Page 2 of the article I posted earlier.