ObamaGate is getting big

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It's been a slow process, but the picture is becoming clear: an organized conspiracy at the top levels of the CIA and FBI to entrap Trump officials in manufactured illegal activity, for the purpose of overturning the election.

Seven Mysterious Preludes to the FBI's Trump-Russia Probe

The Federal Bureau of Investigation formally opened its Trump investigation after Western intelligence assets and Clinton-affiliated political operatives repeatedly approached the Trump campaign and tried but failed to damage it through associations with Russia, a growing body of evidence suggests.

Before the FBI began investigating the Trump campaign in an operation code-named “Crossfire Hurricane,” there were at least seven different instances when campaign advisers were approached with Russia-related offers. Most of those contacts — including Donald Trump Jr.’s much-publicized meeting with a Russian lawyer and others in June 2016 — offered the prospect of information damaging to Donald Trump’s Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton.

Two of these approaches were made by one U.S. government informant already publicly identified as such, Stefan Halper. Another was made by a man who swore in court that he had worked as an FBI informant. Two others were made by figures associated with Western intelligence agencies. Another two approaches included political operatives, one foreign, with ties to the Clintons.

President Obama’s director of national intelligence, James Clapper, has asserted that dispatching Halper to follow the Trump campaign “protected” it from the Russians.

But Mark Wauck, a former FBI agent with experience in such tactics, sees an effort at entrapment. “What appear to have been repeated attempts to implicate the Trump campaign, in some sort of quid pro quo arrangement with Russians who claimed to have ‘dirt’ on Hillary,” Wauck told RealClearInvestigations, “look like efforts to manufacture evidence against members of the Trump campaign or create pretexts to investigate it.”

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com ... probe.html

The two sides of the criminal conspiracy going on in the late stages of the Obama administration were the simultaneous attempts to set up Trump and overthrow the election, on the one hand, and to cover up internal corruption that was in danger of being exposed, on the other. As more details slowly come out, we learn now that the Chinese had real-time access to Hillary Clinton's email while she was Secretary of State.

SOURCES: CHINA HACKED HILLARY CLINTON’S PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER

A Chinese-owned company operating in the Washington, D.C., area hacked Hillary Clinton’s private server throughout her term as secretary of state and obtained nearly all her emails, two sources briefed on the matter told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

The Chinese firm obtained Clinton’s emails in real time as she sent and received communications and documents through her personal server, according to the sources, who said the hacking was conducted as part of an intelligence operation.

The Chinese wrote code that was embedded in the server, which was kept in Clinton’s residence in upstate New York. The code generated an instant “courtesy copy” for nearly all of her emails and forwarded them to the Chinese company, according to the sources.

The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) found that virtually all of Clinton’s emails were sent to a “foreign entity,” Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican, said at a July 12 House Committee on the Judiciary hearing. He did not reveal the entity’s identity, but said it was unrelated to Russia. (RELATED: Gohmert: Watchdog Found Clinton Emails Were Sent To ‘Foreign Entity’)

Two officials with the ICIG, investigator Frank Rucker and attorney Janette McMillan, met repeatedly with FBI officials to warn them of the Chinese intrusion, according to a former intelligence officer with expertise in cybersecurity issues, who was briefed on the matter. He spoke anonymously, as he was not authorized to publicly address the Chinese’s role with Clinton’s server.

Among those FBI officials was Peter Strzok, who was then the bureau’s top counterintelligence official. Strzok was fired this month following the discovery he sent anti-Trump texts to his mistress and co-worker, Lisa Page. Strzok didn’t act on the information the ICIG provided him, according to Gohmert.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/27/chin ... on-server/

anyone got any updates on this? it's been 17 months now since it apparently 'got big' but I am yet to hear much of anything about it.

Yes!

Apparently there’s cameras not only in microwaves- but in OVENS and TOASTERS as well!

Let's look into Trump staffers use of e-mail and private encrypted messaging. Are you sure you want to pull on that thread?

There is enough circumstantial evidence to look into the Obama administration. I would be shocked if any serious effort to investigate will ever be launched.

1. Left bias among reporters
2. Fear of tarnishing the record of the first black president
3. In our 24/7 social media world, it is yesterday's news
4. Cry Wolf syndrome. Many of the media reporting on this sees conspiracies everywhere so anything coming from these media organizations are not taken seriously.

Even if every bad thing alleged about Trump is true it should not lessen the bad of any Obama wrongdoing but in the real world, it does.

I don't think any president will ever be held truly accountable for crimes committed while in office. Most of the bickering you see between political adversaries is purely for show. Dems and Pubs are complicit in most of the crimes committed, so neither party wants to see justice served.

Left or right sychophants will always ignore or twist the truth to suit them, so in the end, all this theater serves only to persuade the moderates and independent's, which of course, can swing the pendulum in one direction or the other. How wonderful!


"Come over to our team! See how bad those guys are?" We're the ones looking out for you!" *snicker*

Exactly. Two sides of the same bad penny. At least someone gets it.

I think a large number of people get it; it's just that they don't see any other option other than picking the lesser of the two evils.

And people wonder why I don’t vote. The last decent politicians were Truman, Eisenhower, and Carter, ESPECIALLY after he left office.

For some of us, this was clear a long time ago.

I hate my country....

Much of (but certainly not all) of Trump's wrongdoing, as well as Obama's, Shrub's, Clinton's, Bush Sr.'s, Reagan's, etc and their administrations doesn't appear to be 'big' enough or has the wrong implications for the media to treat it as a scandal. Basically, I agree with you, but would argue most of Obama's wrongdoing doesn't amount to more than background noise by the standards of the establishment media.

Tangentially related, it seems like most of the more openly populist and/or socialist new faces get much closer scrutiny, so things that would be trivial if they were done by a more establishment person are examined more closely when it's someone who's more of an outsider. Establishment media protects insiders in the same way progressive and conservative media tend to protect their team's players.

There is one indisputable fact: Barack Obama was president of the US when the Russians were attacking our political system. He was in charge of the intelligence agencies charged with preventing this. And he did absolutely nothing to prevent it. The failure is all on Obama--he owns it.
He also owes the country an explanation for the historic abuse of government surveillance powers used against the political party out of power.

They still are, and Trump actively resist doing anything about it.


The nature of the attack was a manipulation of public opinion. The US government does not control the platforms through which the attack was carried out, so it couldn't prevent them. The appropriate action was to explain to the public the nature of the attack. That could only work if it was a bipartisan statement, else it would have been dismissed as a partisan intervention. The Obama administration contacted the GOP to make the announcement. Mitch McConnell nixed it. And for McConnel, what followed was not a failure, it was a success. Partly, because he is not made to own it, and partly because it got him what he wanted.


He owes an explanation for not cutting back on the surveillance powers Bush and Cheney brought in. Is there evidence that the Obama administration used those powers specifically against the Republicans, beyond conspiracy theories like Trump's unsubstantiated claims of phone tapping?

It's in banana republics and third world dictatorships where the sitting chief executive jail their political opponents, not first world industrial democracies, and certainly not America. That's all this Obamagate idiocy is about, as well as that "lock her up" crap. Now let's see if Trump is the petty autocrat-wannabe that so many of us think he is.