Nazis are the enemy.

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Lend-Lease probably made eventual entry into World War II inevitable.

We were into it up to our eyeballs.

I only know of a few Nazis who are very fine people: Schindler and a couple of others. Any decent people who attended the rally should have understood their situation when they saw the torxh-bearing crowd, and left.

I don't think the NAZI philosophy is unusual.

They advocate the "protector philosophy" which is how humans have acted throughout history.

Modern humans fancy themselves as "enlightened" and "moral".

However, I'm going to agree with the joker ....

Germany declared war on America right after Pearl Harbor, not the other way around.

People have been speculating as to what would have happened if Germany did not declare war ever since.

Like I said, we were in the European Theater up to our eyeballs even before Pearl Harbor.

I would estimate we would have been in the war by 1942, no matter what.

Something bizarre, I saw Karen Straughan interview Chris Cantwell (of VICE fame) from a couple days ago. Not what you'd expect at all. The idea I got from the interview - he was one of the people who probably visually looked the most like a neo-Nazi (probably why VICE snapped him up for an interview) but he comes off, at least in Karen's interview, more ethno-pessimist instead; ie. has black friends, a black ex-girlfriend, formerly associated with a group that was trying to find and target police racism against minorities, etc. but came to the conclusion that he was wrong about key things.

This is part of why I really prefer to hear people out when I can over the media specials, ie. even if it's a hit-piece and the hit-piece is largely right you get no nuance and when you get no nuance you get no clue what you're dealing with, what kinds of people they actually are.

I truly feel that most people of all ethnicities will get along once they start actually living and working together.

Common goals, and common experiences, to me, always bring people together.

I was a racist when I was a kid. When I started actually hanging out with people of different "races," the racism disappeared.

In the neighborhood where I live, there are 10 different ethnicities, at a minimum.

And the whole gamut, at least of the most common "races." Black, white, Hispanic, South Asian, East Asian, combinations of all those "races."

Out of all these "races," the whites are probably the least common.

People talk to each other. People hang out with each other. And you can drop a $10 bill on the sidewalk at 7 AM, and find it (provided the wind doesn't go above 10 MPH) in the same place at 11:59 PM. This actually happened to me.

They're not seeing people as PEOPLE.

There are many reasons for this. Some economic, others psychological.

But it DOES happen with "other races."

The job is not complete....but much progress has been made.

Meh. It took rereading what people were saying for me to get the message that the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend by default.

With that said, feel free to disregard most of what I stated earlier in this thread.