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Chronos
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24 Apr 2018, 7:28 pm

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People are petrified of criticising Israel. That's down to decades of propaganda.


I agree...
Even today I think twice about making a comment or simply an observation about the Jewish community...

I am not anti-semitic...
I simply resent the political correctness card that is so often played at the expense of freedom of observation...


There isn't really a "the jewish community", there are many different jewish communities.


But do you agree with the point I am making? :wink:


I think the problem with criticizing Israel is that you will instantly have 100 men with Tiki torches and nazi and white supremacist insignias standing by your side spewing their venom against jews, and then it makes you look like one of them.

But I'm a jew so I can criticize Israel without neo nazis rallying around me because most of them don't want to be in the same room with me unless it's to kill me.

Additionally, when I criticize a country, I'm usually very specific about what aspect of that country I am criticizing.



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24 Apr 2018, 7:53 pm

Chronos wrote:
I think the problem with criticizing Israel is that you will instantly have 100 men with Tiki torches and nazi and white supremacist insignias standing by your side spewing their venom against jews, and then it makes you look like one of them.


You can easily avoid this by allying yourself with the Neturei Karta. Zionists hate them because they are anti-Zionist. Nazis hate them because Nazis think that all Jews are the same.


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24 Apr 2018, 8:07 pm

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I think the problem with criticizing Israel is that you will instantly have 100 men with Tiki torches and nazi and white supremacist insignias standing by your side spewing their venom against jews, and then it makes you look like one of them.


You can easily avoid this by allying yourself with the Neturei Karta. Zionists hate them because they are anti-Zionist. Nazis hate them because Nazis think that all Jews are the same.


I have no need to do such a thing.



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25 Apr 2018, 4:32 pm

Chronos wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Chronos wrote:
Pepe wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
People are petrified of criticising Israel. That's down to decades of propaganda.


I agree...
Even today I think twice about making a comment or simply an observation about the Jewish community...

I am not anti-semitic...
I simply resent the political correctness card that is so often played at the expense of freedom of observation...


There isn't really a "the jewish community", there are many different jewish communities.


But do you agree with the point I am making? :wink:


I think the problem with criticizing Israel is that you will instantly have 100 men with Tiki torches and nazi and white supremacist insignias standing by your side spewing their venom against jews, and then it makes you look like one of them.

But I'm a jew so I can criticize Israel without neo nazis rallying around me because most of them don't want to be in the same room with me unless it's to kill me.

Additionally, when I criticize a country, I'm usually very specific about what aspect of that country I am criticizing.


But do you agree with the point that non-Jewish people feel a need to be careful in commenting on anything to do with all aspects of the Jewish community because of what happened during WW2?

And to prove my impartiality, I will point out there is even more concern in making a "statement" regarding the Muslim community...
Some Muslim extremists have murdered cartoonists, for example:
Quote:
PARIS — Masked gunmen armed with AK-47s and shouting "Allahu Akbar" stormed the offices of a French satirical news magazine Wednesday in a terror attack that left 12 people dead, including the editor and two police officers. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris ... is-n281266

And remember Salman Rushdie and his "The Satanic Verses"?:
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Many Muslims accused Rushdie of blasphemy or unbelief and in 1989 the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran issued a fatwa ordering Muslims to kill Rushdie. Numerous killings, attempted killings, and bombings resulted from violent Muslims over the novel.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satan ... ontroversy



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25 Apr 2018, 8:50 pm

Pepe wrote:
Chronos wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Chronos wrote:
Pepe wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
People are petrified of criticising Israel. That's down to decades of propaganda.


I agree...
Even today I think twice about making a comment or simply an observation about the Jewish community...

I am not anti-semitic...
I simply resent the political correctness card that is so often played at the expense of freedom of observation...


There isn't really a "the jewish community", there are many different jewish communities.


But do you agree with the point I am making? :wink:


I think the problem with criticizing Israel is that you will instantly have 100 men with Tiki torches and nazi and white supremacist insignias standing by your side spewing their venom against jews, and then it makes you look like one of them.

But I'm a jew so I can criticize Israel without neo nazis rallying around me because most of them don't want to be in the same room with me unless it's to kill me.

Additionally, when I criticize a country, I'm usually very specific about what aspect of that country I am criticizing.


But do you agree with the point that non-Jewish people feel a need to be careful in commenting on anything to do with all aspects of the Jewish community because of what happened during WW2?

And to prove my impartiality, I will point out there is even more concern in making a "statement" regarding the Muslim community...
Some Muslim extremists have murdered cartoonists, for example:
Quote:
PARIS — Masked gunmen armed with AK-47s and shouting "Allahu Akbar" stormed the offices of a French satirical news magazine Wednesday in a terror attack that left 12 people dead, including the editor and two police officers. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris ... is-n281266

And remember Salman Rushdie and his "The Satanic Verses"?:
Quote:
Many Muslims accused Rushdie of blasphemy or unbelief and in 1989 the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran issued a fatwa ordering Muslims to kill Rushdie. Numerous killings, attempted killings, and bombings resulted from violent Muslims over the novel.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satan ... ontroversy


I think when commenting on issues surrounding a historically marginalized or oppressed group, and even any group one is not a member of, one may struggle to do so in a sensitive manner which is difficult to misconstrue. The reason is, being a member of a demographic makes one's "allegiances" a little clearer when speaking about that demographic. When Satmars or other groups of jew condemb Israel, by virtue of the fact that they are jews, people are likely to reason that their sentiments do not reflect an aspect of anti semitic sentiments. When your average christian gentile condemns Israel, the possibility that their condemnation is an extension of anti semitic sentiments can't so easily be refuted.