I have issues with feminism
True feminism is subsumed in egalitarianism -- the concept of social equality, prioritizing it for ALL people, and not just for one exclusive group ("... more equal than others").
Yes this is an interesting conundrum. At what point does the "wokeness" become detrimental to the efficient functioning of society. At the moment the three areas western feminism still want a level playing field
1. Objectification - this is confusing a lot of men who don't know how to approach women without being labelled a creep or being accused of sexual harassment
2. Employment - while women are not represented equally in many employment sectors, unemployed males who are struggling to find work resent the encroachment of women into their traditional domains
3. Salary - in theory this should be a no-brainer but the reality is even female bosses know that employing a woman who is child bearing age will potentially result in them taking maternity leave which costs the company money
The above three points should be manageable but these kinks need to be ironed out.
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i Clearly said, I DO NOT RECOMMEND
11 YEAR-OLD GIRLS TWERKING BECAUSE
of all the sick Puppies Raised on a Steady Diet of Porn.
I similarly would not recommend 11 year-old girls, or boys for that matter, to twerk because, because people are going to see it sexually. But I am not going to tell a girl, or boy, what to do with their body, especially in the comfort of their own private environment.
Considering the environment, you could accuse an 11 year old of doing something sexual by wearing short shorts, having makeup, dancing the macarena, showing their feet, playing with her hair, stretching, saying "daddy" and so on. We can't force people how they might see something as sexual, but we can work on ourselves to impose sexuality on 11 year-olds that don't intend something as sexual, they are just copying what looks to them like a fun dance.
Like we can shift this entire debate to the act of going topless. In not every society, but in many it is seen sexual for women to let the girls (da boobies) out without a shirt on, even breastfeeding can be seen as inappropriate. Similarly this standard of sexualizing the bare female chest is pushed onto also saying that little girls who have not grown anything at all is sexually inappropriate. But we don't have these standards with men and boys. I am sure that some people will say something like it bare chests are only attractive or sexual in regards to a woman's boobs, but I am not even a big boobs sort of guy and as bisexual I feel some sexuality from a bare chest of a hunk or a twink. And it only should be attractive because like a topless lady, they are adults.
I am not going to start telling women or girls to rebel against their bodies inherently being seen as sexual more sexual than men and girls by going topless as to confront the unequal bias between the sexes/genders. Like even man boobs are not seen as sexual by general society. But I think that maybe we can shift things so we are not seeing the bodies of children as inherently sexual, which probably won't be easy to achieve because a lot of sick people indeed see the bodies of children as sexual, influenced by a long history of societal standards. But again, some people even see feet as sexual, and thus would probably advise against minors posting feet picks if they don't want inappropriate attention from certain adults.
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I was just a twinkle in the milkman's eye in 1971 but different times for sure.
Nice pinstripes dude , I never owned stripes but did have chequered ( ridiculed for them too , kids are harsh
i picked out the Pin Striped Slacks at the 'Sears and Roebucks' Catalog for 'Mail Order' at 11;
'The City' Was too Far to Drive from 'Hooterville'/'Green Acres'; not the Restaurant with Hot Wings; Haha...
As Puberty Approached, 'Hip Huggers' were the in thing for 'Both Genders' in the 'Partridge Family Days'; quite frankly,
nah, i wouldn't wanna go back to the 'Innocent Days'; hmm, hehe; maybe if i knew and could do what i do now....
i do believe it helps to have Generational experience When Discussing Topics Like Feminism.
i was still Very 'Sheldon Cooper' into my 40's and Moved Very Erratically and did Dress
Like 'John Nash' did in the Fictional Part of the 'Beautiful Mind Movie' that didn't really
Happen in the Book; but made for great Fiction; but in my Study of Modern Bar
And Dance Scenes; 'Adam Smith' Really Has to Be Revised as now it's not, 'Not
Going for the Blonde' that Brings You the Brunette, Per the Movie of course;
But totally ignoring ALL THE WOMEN as during the Course of 298 Weeks of
Dance at the Largest Metro Dance Hall; i never asked one Woman to Dance;
Just ignored them and did my own 'SiGNaTuRE Style of Spiraling Dance;
The Photo Below is from the Last Night of Thursday Night Dance When
Covid-19 Closed it down on 3.12.2020; my 60th Birthday was on 6.6.2020
Devil Be it; hehe; then i was really wanting to Celebrate it there; but these Two
Women Flattered me then approaching me from the Rear as that happens now;
per the Twerking Style of Dance; and Asking For my Phone Number; it is kinda
Dark in There Hiding some of what Folks look like in Bright Lights; so, i said, "How
Old Do You Think i am"; they said 35; i laughed and said almost 60; my Wife is much more
Attractive, anyway; haha; but i was very flattered as i am Just a 'Normal Dude' that way too.
Anyway; there is No Second Rate For Women in the Dance Hall; they definitely Rule the Dudes now;
Girl Power; Is all the 'Rave' Now, They stick together; Smiles, i have over 2,000 Photos Just like the one Below all recorded
in my Long Form Poem at 8.4 Million Words now with all the 13,566 Miles of Public Dance in the Same Period of
7 Years now; Recently, Celebrating the Anniversary Date of Recovering as a Shut-in in my Bedroom Ill with 19 Medical
Disorders; the Most Amazing thing about life is Struggle, Adaptation, and Positive Change; Women have put
in the Work and are moving way ahead of Dudes; Plenty of Research Now to Back that up; My Wife insists that
She is better than me at all the House Work; i agree and left her have her way with me; i still Bring in the Bucks
Retired and she does the rest as she loves to be in Charge; Basically, this is How Male Bonobos Live; and they
don't even have to Bring in 'the Bucks 'so much; Just allocate Their 'Services' As Desired....
Second Part of Comment Below:
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Peter Pan; isn't Just a Human Myth and or Reality....
If one lives long enough, One sees way more than just 2 or 3 sides of Life....
i refuse to Complain about any of it; and it surely doesn't bother me when
Women Hold their Heads Higher than me; haha, or even take advantage of
me in some ways too; Males and Females have A Lot of Freedom, now by
any past Standard; We Stand to lose it more By Not Paying Attention
Now to what's going on at the so-called 'Top of the Bottom' Now
Like Smaller Than We Can See Coming Out of the 'Bat Cave';
Where is 'BatMan' When We Really Need 'Him'; Hmm,
or has 'he' just given up on us and released all the Bats and 'Their' wrath....
Another Topic Perhaps... for another Day to come again.... i sort of miss the Dance Hall indeed...
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i Clearly said, I DO NOT RECOMMEND
11 YEAR-OLD GIRLS TWERKING BECAUSE
of all the sick Puppies Raised on a Steady Diet of Porn.
I similarly would not recommend 11 year-old girls, or boys for that matter, to twerk because, because people are going to see it sexually. But I am not going to tell a girl, or boy, what to do with their body, especially in the comfort of their own private environment.
Considering the environment, you could accuse an 11 year old of doing something sexual by wearing short shorts, having makeup, dancing the macarena, showing their feet, playing with her hair, stretching, saying "daddy" and so on. We can't force people how they might see something as sexual, but we can work on ourselves to impose sexuality on 11 year-olds that don't intend something as sexual, they are just copying what looks to them like a fun dance.
Like we can shift this entire debate to the act of going topless. In not every society, but in many it is seen sexual for women to let the girls (da boobies) out without a shirt on, even breastfeeding can be seen as inappropriate. Similarly this standard of sexualizing the bare female chest is pushed onto also saying that little girls who have not grown anything at all is sexually inappropriate. But we don't have these standards with men and boys. I am sure that some people will say something like it bare chests are only attractive or sexual in regards to a woman's boobs, but I am not even a big boobs sort of guy and as bisexual I feel some sexuality from a bare chest of a hunk or a twink. And it only should be attractive because like a topless lady, they are adults.
I am not going to start telling women or girls to rebel against their bodies inherently being seen as sexual more sexual than men and girls by going topless as to confront the unequal bias between the sexes/genders. Like even man boobs are not seen as sexual by general society. But I think that maybe we can shift things so we are not seeing the bodies of children as inherently sexual, which probably won't be easy to achieve because a lot of sick people indeed see the bodies of children as sexual, influenced by a long history of societal standards. But again, some people even see feet as sexual, and thus would probably advise against minors posting feet picks if they don't want inappropriate attention from certain adults.
From the Picture i provided from '71 it's pretty easy to see; there wasn't much 'funny (fun) business going on'.
The Culture Really Changed a lot by '73, When Rowe Versus Wade Was Passed; and became very Sexually
Liberated even more until 'Aids' in the 80's and Reagan and the Such as that; Things Changed but when i
was 13-16; no matter what the Folks were doing around me; i just didn't have much clue; most definitely
part of Asperger's Syndrome then; Sexually Liberated Women don't bother me now at all; but God Yes i was
Catholic and Brain Washed then into Believing that Only 'Good Girls' Were Good; totally ridiculous to me now...
But that Sexual Repression wasn't Healthy to that extent for sure; as ironically it made 'Church Life' all 'Vagina' Focused.
Actually, Teenage Rates of Pregnancies are declining; take the Taboo away; that was really Driving the
Curiosity to Do it; more and now, meh; so what; seen it 10,000 times in the last Several Years; why go to
The Trouble and Potential Real Negative consequences of actually doing it; It's Nature's Balance in my Opinion;
As Porn actually becomes Birth Control in Effect; Less Humans ain't gonna hurt the Rest of Nature's Feelings, overall;
Even More so as Research Shows in the Newest Generation; ever more solitary in Pursuits of Life;
that's for sure
And as Far as the
Women in the Dance Hall
Bars they might have been Grinding (sort of safely sowing their wild oats)
in there Wild and Free; but they mostly went home with the Women they came with...
298 Weeks provided a lot of study; and yes Like 'John Nash', i literally went home and took notes
in the Participant Anthropological Study of the Entire Cultural experience; Really Fascinating Stuff, overall;
Except for a Few Bar Scuffles; choke Holds to get folks to submit; stuff that i never expected but just happened
suddenly out the Shadow of me; i had no idea existed; yes, learned a lot about myself too; in those 6 Years too.
Freedom becomes somewhat Conservative this way; always many sides to consider to the Story..
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The Culture Really Changed a lot by '73, When Rowe Versus Wade Was Passed; and became very Sexually
Liberated even more until 'Aids' in the 80's and Reagan and the Such as that; Things Changed but when i
was 13-16; no matter what the Folks were doing around me; i just didn't have much clue; most definitely
part of Asperger's Syndrome then; Sexually Liberated Women don't bother me now at all; but God Yes i was
Catholic and Brain Washed then into Believing that Only 'Good Girls' Were Good; totally ridiculous to me now...
But that Sexual Repression wasn't Healthy to that extent for sure; as ironically it made 'Church Life' all 'Vagina' Focused.
Actually, Teenage Rates of Pregnancies are declining; take the Taboo away; that was really Driving the
Curiosity to Do it; more and now, meh; so what; seen it 10,000 times in the last Several Years; why go to
The Trouble and Potential Real Negative consequences of actually doing it; It's Nature's Balance in my Opinion;
As Porn actually becomes Birth Control in Effect; Less Humans ain't gonna hurt the Rest of Nature's Feelings, overall;
Slut shaming based on old ideas of what is modest is more of a threat than people taking control of their own sexuality.
This is why I would defend the video game character Bayonetta as not inherently a problem in terms of feminism, I love how the character is so sure of in and in complete control of her sexuality.
This version of Fly Me To The Moon is still my favourite version of it.
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The Culture Really Changed a lot by '73, When Rowe Versus Wade Was Passed; and became very Sexually
Liberated even more until 'Aids' in the 80's and Reagan and the Such as that; Things Changed but when i
was 13-16; no matter what the Folks were doing around me; i just didn't have much clue; most definitely
part of Asperger's Syndrome then; Sexually Liberated Women don't bother me now at all; but God Yes i was
Catholic and Brain Washed then into Believing that Only 'Good Girls' Were Good; totally ridiculous to me now...
But that Sexual Repression wasn't Healthy to that extent for sure; as ironically it made 'Church Life' all 'Vagina' Focused.
Actually, Teenage Rates of Pregnancies are declining; take the Taboo away; that was really Driving the
Curiosity to Do it; more and now, meh; so what; seen it 10,000 times in the last Several Years; why go to
The Trouble and Potential Real Negative consequences of actually doing it; It's Nature's Balance in my Opinion;
As Porn actually becomes Birth Control in Effect; Less Humans ain't gonna hurt the Rest of Nature's Feelings, overall;
Slut shaming based on old ideas of what is modest is more of a threat than people taking control of their own sexuality.
This is why I would defend the video game character Bayonetta as not inherently a problem in terms of feminism, I love how the character is so sure of in and in complete control of her sexuality.
This version of Fly Me To The Moon is still my favourite version of it.
Thanks For Sharing that Version of "Fly me to the Moon"; it's Driven Similar like the
Beat of the Old Disco Days of the 70's; Enhanced on all ends of the Spectrum of Sexual
Liberation as Truly Pure Lust Drives Creativity and Productivity as an Origin of All Humanity
Has Accomplished in this way; There Just aren't any Hang-ups in the Modern Dance Hall, even
in one of the Most Conservative Areas of the United States where i live as the Dance Hall is Yes, in
Pensacola, A Haven for Trump Supporters, indeed overall; and my County that is close to Pensacola
even Greater supporting him at 75 Percent; the Younger Generations, albeit skewed by this Example
of Bars that generally attract more open and extraverted Personalities to even walk in the doors; but
Still i have not come across a less Discriminatory Environment, Anywhere, Where i Live; as far as the
'Stereotyped Differences of Human' Playing any part of Exclusion as everyone really is so accepting;
in fact, people go out of their way to accept People Who are the Most different among the Crowd;
Indeed, a very Lust Filled Environment but the Science of it shows that it was going to
be a very conducive Environment to increase the kind of Neurochemicals and
Neurohormones i needed to enhance the Potential of my Human Creativity;
along with the Autotelic Flow of the Dance in ascending and transcending
Trance, it was really a 'Perfect Church Under the Milky Way' to
Enhance everything about Human Potential for those
who weren't stuck in the Morality of the past
against so many Human Freedoms this way;
And really the Grinding thing is practiced Less
intimate than a Kiss, a Hug, Or even a Handshake;
in fact, there are instances that you never get to see
the Woman's Face as they move on after they are finished
with you; to the Next Green Meadow of Bees to play in; A Very
Natural Filled Experience; Very Earthy indeed and very very alive.
hehe; maybe the Pandemics will go away by when i reach 70 to study
it some more; the Whole 'Trump Pandemic' Has Soured So much of the
Positive Direction Human Freedoms are heading; but on the other hand, Humans overall,
paying a price for Consuming the Nature of the Earth more than Giving Back 'Fair and Balanced';
who knows,
what price
we may all
Pay for that
Soon and Sooner too...
it would help if the Nation
as a whole would acknowledge
that we are really in a fight for the
Survival of our Nation, overall, with how
we deal with Life And Death Catastrophe's;
Anything Close to a Change in Leadership will help, Obviously..
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