Abortion Rights On the Chopping Block

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'Thing' is Dude,

You Don't Seem

to Fully Understand,

There Are Experiences

In Life WORSE THAN DEATH;

When YOU COME TO THAT UNDERSTANDING;

WHEN YOU CAN GET Violently RAPED BY YOUR FATHER

AND ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO RID YOURSELF

OF THAT

EVIL SPAWN;

COME BACK

AND TALK TO US

ABOUT ETHICS AND MORALITY PLEASE;

UNTIL THEN, YOU Don't Know, Feel, and
Sense Enough About the Human Condition Now.

INDEED, ETHICS

AND MORALITY

IS ONLY RELATIVE

FOR HOW MUCH WE

UNDERSTAND OF THE HUMAN

CONDITION; Indeed, Ethics and

Morality is ALSO THE HIGHWAY TO
HELL ON EarTH oF IGnorance FOR REAL
Taking Others So Easy to

Consequences

Worse than Death;

And Of Course the

Same Applies to Euthanasia

And Hoarding Dead Bodies Instead of Feeding 'The Worms'...

A Religion, Politics, And Philosophy of Ignorance Brings Most Harm too...

It's All Relative

Baby From

WHere We
BREaTHE Heaven
Or Hell Now And
the Purgatory In Between...

Perhaps, If You Experienced the
Worst Pain Known to Humankind
Type Two Trigeminal Neuralgia

From Wake to Sleep For 66 Months
That No Drug Will Touch Actually

Assessed As Worse than the So-called

Pain of Crucifixion For Real; You Could

Understand How Far The Rings of Dante's Hell

Go Alive

Alive

Living

Deader than
Dead Alive Now...

i Don't Expect You

To; Yet Trust me or not, Your View is Limited;

EMPATHY BABY, A LIFELONG ART OF COMPASSION
IN PRACTICE OR NOT...

i Do Understand

Now You Don't 'See'
What Some Other Folks Do...

i Surely Wouldn't "Change You

Into A Goat From A Sheep And

Burn You Forever" For What You Are Not Able to See...

-'See' What i mean?

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862,320 12-year-old girls got impregnated by their fathers?

Also, go back and read what I said:


For all those 862,320 12-year-old girls you think were impregnated by their fathers, did 862,320 fathers end up in prison?

And by all means, PLEASE check my stats. If only babies who are conceived through incestuous rape are being killed, then the same number of fathers should be incarcerated. I propose you look up conviction stats on child rape and see if that number matches 862,320. I bet it doesn’t. I bet reality is that fathers tend to keep their hands off their daughters and that rape doesn’t ALWAYS result in pregnancy. So that would mean that the kind of issue you’re talking about is extremely rare. A paternity test could show incest before a baby is born. You can make a reasonable case for killing babies under rare, exceptional, and extraordinary circumstances, same as you can make a case for killing anyone. I don’t see how 862,320 possible unpunished murders are rare or reasonable. Or compassionate or just.

^6^

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i Didn't Relate Any Stats At All; Just

One Extreme Circumstance That Does

Happen; It's The Same With Mental States

of Being; Whether it is Violent Father Rape or A Mistake

in A Drunken One Night Stand; Rape or Not,

Some Women Aren't Cut Out

to Carry A Child to term;

And the Same Applies Until

You Become One of Those Women

And Become Pregnant And Are Not Able to
Afford to Go Somewhere to Save Your Mental
Health and Life, You Are Still Not Understanding the

Depth of Human

HeLL on EartH; However,

It Works the Other Way too;

Let's See How Many of The Suited-

Up Folks at the First Baptist Church Supporting

The New Law Will Stand Around And Not Take Their

16 Year-Old Daughters to Another State For an Abortion

To Save Face For Perhaps A Mixed Marriage or Such as that...

And to Be Clear Many Underage Girls Are Forced into
Abortions to Save First Baptist Face When they Really

Wanna Have Their Mixed Babies Or However they

Escape From Their Wombs...

Seen It Happen,

Just For Plain Old

Saving Face; i've Seen

It Happen, When the Daughter

Who Was Told that Abstinence is the

Only Way that Works, Terrified, Hid A

Pregnancy From Her Deacon Father Until the Day She

Had the Child In the Woods, Who Died, Who Otherwise

Might Have lived, if Afforded Prenatal Care; of Course in Most

Every Case, Ignorance And Lack of Empathy And Compassion

Disguised As Morality and Ethics Rules Among the Ignorant Cold Hearted;

And Meanwhile, The Family Dog

Brought Some Body

Parts of that

Child Born

Dead Back Up
to the Home For

Ignorance to make

its Presents for 'Christmas Known';

The Deacon Father Had Plenty of Money;

He Bought my Old Camaro in Cash For His Daughter;

All Crisp Hundred Dollar Bills; All 8,000 Dollars Back

in 2008; Sadly, He had Not Enough Common Sense

Then For How Human Nature Even REALLY Works;

So His

Daughter

Paid the

Price of

Ignorance and

Indeed the Potential

For a Living Grand-Child Instead of Dead...

Life is Messy Baby; You Can't Make it Black
And White Ethics and Morality, No Matter How

Restricted 'Left-Brained in Think' You May Think it is....

Ya Have to Develop The Kind of Holistic Empathy And Compassion

That Sees Farther than Your Own 'Knows'; True, Not Easy for Everyone to do...

Takes Practice...

Practice

Practice

Indeed; This All Comes

Down to Empathy And

Compassion for the Needs

And Requirements to Survive and

Thrive For Other Human Beings who
Are Different than Us; Go Figure that's

An Intelligence Not All Practice and it

Shows in Most All Areas of Life Today More;

Folks Who Just Aren't Interested in Walking

in the Shoes of Others With All Variables

Of Life Experiences Different From them....

The Majority of Texans As Polled Don't Agree
With the Texas Law; This is a Democracy; This is

A Nation With a Declaration of Independence that

Supports Rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

For All In Individual Ways With Least Harm; That isn't Limited to

Just Non-Breathing Life, indeed; However, In Reality, Many of the So-Called

Folks Who Wanna Tell Women What to Do With Their Uterus Don't Give

A Flying

F For

That Child

Who Might

Use a Tax Credit

To Get Some Clothes

Now to Wear A Little Bit

Later in Life in West Virginia

Or Wherever Cold Ignorant Hearts Don't Care...

It's All Disgusting to me; Yet it's Just my Opinion.

We Do LiVE iN A Democracy, So Far At Least Still Now;

i Don't Get my Way

And Neither Do You;

When the Democracy

Works the Majority Does;

In This Case, the Majority of
Texans Do Not Support the Law;

And In Many Cases, Laws are Becoming
Twisted to Support the Desires of the

Ignorant Cold Hearted Minority...

We Get the
Country

We Create;

A More Perfect

Union or Big Show

Circus Top of Cold Hearted Ignorance...

Yawn, Just Watching From A
Garden of Eden for Real; 'Eve'
Please Pass the Popcorn again;

As i Told You

Before We aRe ALL

God Over Here; And

True We Can And Will

Color God For Love With All
With Least Harm or Keep the 'Old Testament God' 'In Office' for real...

The One that Supports Dashing the Opposing Tribe's BREATHING Children's
Heads Against Stones
and the such

of Human

Failure

at Love...

Or Just Eliminate

Masking and Social

Distancing During the
Peak of A Deadly Variant

Like They Did at the Church

Where i Visit and Let the Breathing Bodies Free Fall at 'Cause',

Looking Forward to Carrots And or Sticks After Death this way...

Yawn...

Whatcha

Gonna

Do Yet
Captcha's

That Still
Attempt to
Determine
How Human We Really Are...

Meanwhile, i Watch, and Eat the Free Popcorn, And Tell A Real Story;

Yes, It's Kind of a 'Complicated Situation, Lots of Ins and Outs' Now;

'Lots of Strands Man'; Lots of Threads to 'Keep in Old Duder's Head'..

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/texas-new-abortion-law-popular/620120/

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Extreme circumstances warrant extreme responses. I don’t know if it’s right to punish the unborn for what their father did, but it at least approaches a reasonable justification with the well-being of the mother in mind.

The mental/emotional well-being of a person is never a reasonable justification for killing, however. I’ve got a good list of people my mental/emotional state would be much improved if they were somehow removed from existence, but I’d never be able to argue my way out of a murder charge if I were to ever actualize those thoughts. So my response is to consider whether I’m motivated by envy, which I can cure by celebrating the achievements I covet for myself, or if someone if there’s another cause that has made me hurt or angry, then I confront the reasons I feel that way. Maybe I ignore someone out of existence, maybe I talk to them to see what the problem is, or maybe I sue them in court and leave it up to a judge. Or I talk to a third party and see if I’M the problem and need to work through things on my own.

The unborn don’t get reason, they don’t get justice as long as abortion is legal. A woman can choose to either fight cancer and lose the child in the process, or hold out for the baby and risk her own life. I can’t see anyone judging that woman for aborting a baby. Ectopic pregnancies rarely make it to term without a rupture that could kill both the mother and baby. A 12 year old rape victim who probably would suffer irreversible damage and possible sterility if it didn’t kill her certainly shouldn’t feel the pressure to sacrifice her life for an unwanted baby.

But statistically, you can’t say there were a combined 862,320 12-year-old incest rapes, ectopic pregnancies, cancer treatments. You can’t say 862,320 lives were in danger from an unborn baby. That’s not reason. That’s murder.

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Give You Credit

For Making Some

Room For the Most

Horrible of Circumstances...

Thing is my FRiEnD While

You May Not Be Able to

'See' The Reality,

There Are

Even

Worse Circumstances Now

Than That That No one Can

See Yet the Young Woman

Enduring the Mental Illness

That She Did Not Ask to Have

Either and Just Part of Her Life

And Not Yours or Mine; It's Hard

to Walk in the Shoes of

Others and This
Is Why We Have
A Democracy and

A Jury of 12 Peers and

Not Just You or me;

The Human Condition
Is Very Very Messy and

Some Days Folks Who Insist

They are the Most Rational of All
Are Obviously Living in Another World
They Are Not Able to See in How that Applies to All of Us...

Lots of

Understanding...

That's An Art
And Never Now

A Science Alone...

Lots of Folks Where i Live
See it Similar to You So Yes,

Let ALL The Votes Be Tallied Fairly Indeed at Best..

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Gosh you have a good memory. What did I say again?

If it happened even once then cannot ban abortion.

Among others, these to AngelRho -

I meant what did I say in the other thread. That was a pretty long time ago and I can't remember. I'm guessing it was something like telling people they don't need circumcision?

Ah, sorry.
Yes I think that was the gist of what you'd said there. Turns out my memory isn't that good.

The "You tried much the same thing" was for AngelRho, asserting that circumcision hurt less than a paper cut - but I don't remember any babies being interviewed post-op.
Much like a man asserting that abortion is not a necessity/not a necessity for staying alive.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were accusing me of trying something but I wasn't quite sure what. That was why I was asking what I said.

Gosh, he really said circumcision hurts no more than a papercut?

I don't want to tell anyone they can't circumcise themselves if they don't want to but using AngelRho's own logic, you don't need circumcision to live so it's not a necessity.

Circumcision isn’t necessary to stay alive. Entirely optional.

But circumcision doesn’t kill people. Abortion does. Abortion is not simply an unnecessary option. It is deadly. I have no argument against abortion as a procedure to stop a woman’s death.

Don't tell other people which options are unnecessary. They know what's best for them far better than you do.

Abortion isn’t necessary to keep a woman alive. When it becomes a necessity, that is an exception.

Unless you're the voiceless child, of course; then it's simply enforced child mutilation.

But again, "necessity" is not dependent on "staying alive". That's just your own narrowed definition.

It’s the definition that matters. And the topic is abortion, not circumcision.