The worst thing about religion

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19 Aug 2008, 11:46 am

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[size=29]ATTENTION; go away![/siz]

I have as much right to be here as you do.

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Any positive belief should have some sort of rationale. The burden is on the religious to prove that their particular beliefs are correct. The burden is not on atheists to prove that these beliefs are incorrect.

Isn't the statement "Any positive belief should have some sort of rationale." a positive belief? What is the rationale?

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Does religion really have communal benefits? It does if you belong to that particular group. Otherwise it is a source of considerable division.

Well, yes, but people of religion are a part of their religious group.

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The idea that we should follow a religion to "please" god is frankly absurd. God hasn't seemed to mind when people murder in his name all over the world.

Well, if religious people love God, then following to please God makes sense. I was really thinking more in terms of getting godly goodies though than pleasing for the sake of pleasing.

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19 Aug 2008, 11:47 am

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In any case, I find him an interesting source of comic relief. I just can't take someone seriously if they b***h about "maths" vs "math" and call people out for saying favor rather than favour, but can't keep their own posts clear of basic spelling and grammatical errors that are wrong regardless of which dialect of English is used.

You know, it could be some master-plan prank that he's trying to pull off. Nobody can trip so laughably into their own logical holes. :lol:

But let me say this, if it is a prank, I would totally buy him a beer.

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19 Aug 2008, 11:47 am

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ATTENTION; go away!

:lol:

SECONDED!

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19 Aug 2008, 11:48 am

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Brilliant, I could make a list of things i've achived that would put you to shame.

Okay, go! What did you do, win a soccer game?

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19 Aug 2008, 11:49 am

This is my concept of a discussion on religion:

Atheist make irrefutable demand for evidence.

Theist states he does not need evidence or reason to hold a belief.

Atheist questions this.

Theist provokes hositility with patronising and false pity.

Atheist respond angrily.

Theist continues insults and mockery.

Theist asks for discussion to cease.

They are both at fault but the theist has intentionally derailed the discussion and bears primary responsibility for this failure.

Some of you need to grow up and study elementary debating technique. Ad hominem are the last resort of the scoundrel.

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19 Aug 2008, 11:49 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Kilroy wrote:

[size=29]ATTENTION; go away![/siz]

I have as much right to be here as you do.

yeah but look at the title of the thread
it's not gonna be a nice happy talk
to come here and b***h about it doesn't do anything but annoy everyone

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19 Aug 2008, 11:49 am

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It does give an insight into your political beliefs however. But seems to be irrelevant in this context.

You won't get much true insight without asking me about my political beliefs to be honest. I have adapted my beliefs a lot to be honest.

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19 Aug 2008, 11:49 am

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Kilroy wrote:

ATTENTION; go away!

:lol:

SECONDED!

After you.

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19 Aug 2008, 11:51 am

For what it's worse, I'm glad you're here, iamnotaparakeet. You are one of the voices of reason on this humorously disheveled thread.

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19 Aug 2008, 11:51 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

After you.

Look, I am fine leaving this thread. I just don't want it to close down against the wishes of the other people here. I know that some people are extracting some joy out this madness-fest.

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19 Aug 2008, 11:52 am

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For what it's worse, I'm glad you're here, iamnotaparakeet. You are one of the voices of reason on this humorously disheveled thread.

Reason is overrated, let the madness reign!! !

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19 Aug 2008, 11:52 am

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Kilroy wrote:

[size=29]ATTENTION; go away![/siz]

I have as much right to be here as you do.

yeah but look at the title of the thread
it's not gonna be a nice happy talk
to come here and b***h about it doesn't do anything but annoy everyone

If they care to have a real conversation, then removing the incendiary comments interspersed within posts might be a good place to start. Otherwise, this thread should go.

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19 Aug 2008, 11:52 am

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corroonb wrote:

Isn't the statement "Any positive belief should have some sort of rationale." a positive belief? What is the rationale?

I believe in the value of logic and reason because I am not insane. I consider those who do not follow logic to be behaving in an insane and irrational way.

If logic has no value, then science would have no worth. Or results.

Science has results.

Religion has never demonstrated results that are measurable.

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19 Aug 2008, 11:52 am

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:

After you.

Look, I am fine leaving this thread. I just don't want it to close down against the wishes of the other people here. I know that some people are extracting some joy out this madness-fest.

It's quite interesting.

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19 Aug 2008, 11:52 am

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first i'll answer you pathetic later post. You people attacking me should be banned for cyber-bullying. I'm an easy target right?

Myself, Phagocyte, AG, Twoshots, and several other well-established regulars are going to be banned because of you? I somehow doubt it.

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Brilliant, I could make a list of things i've achived that would put you to shame.

Try me.

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Actually, I think you may be getting reported for those last insults. Your obviously very upset.

Unless you choose to report an insult, the mods will ignore it. And if you do choose to do so, the best possible result for you is mutually assured destruction.

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