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12 Mar 2017, 9:46 am

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You're probably right about the percentage of American steel to be used. But what had happened to Trump's promise of 100% American made steel being used in that pipeline?


Well, it seems to a bit of a mess. There seems to be multiple interpretations about the details of his promise. The consensus seems to be that he talked about new pipe lines, but there is plenty of disagreement if this pipeline falls under it.



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12 Mar 2017, 10:14 am

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You're probably right about the percentage of American steel to be used. But what had happened to Trump's promise of 100% American made steel being used in that pipeline?


Well, it seems to a bit of a mess. There seems to be multiple interpretations about the details of his promise. The consensus seems to be that he talked about new pipe lines, but there is plenty of disagreement if this pipeline falls under it.


I'm pretty certain everyone agrees he meant this pipeline. The question now is, will his fan club allow him to weasel out of the promise.


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12 Mar 2017, 11:31 am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-the-keystone-xl-pipeline/2011/12/19/gIQApUAX8P_story.html


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12 Mar 2017, 12:47 pm

I think this thread has pretty much jumped the shark.



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12 Mar 2017, 3:57 pm

I've only got a few seconds, but I'm going to try to get this thread back on track with some exciting REAL news - :mrgreen:

The Ivanka Trump effect: Women flock to plastic surgeons to copy blonde bombshell's looks.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailys ... urgery/amp


There you go - you can gnaw on that for awhile.


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12 Mar 2017, 4:08 pm

Worst. Metaphor. Ever.

It's the new getting a tattoo.


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12 Mar 2017, 5:58 pm

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I've only got a few seconds, but I'm going to try to get this thread back on track with some exciting REAL news - :mrgreen:

The Ivanka Trump effect: Women flock to plastic surgeons to copy blonde bombshell's looks.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailys ... urgery/amp


There you go - you can gnaw on that for awhile.


Is this an NT thing?

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12 Mar 2017, 7:03 pm

nurseangela wrote:
I've only got a few seconds, but I'm going to try to get this thread back on track with some exciting REAL news - :mrgreen:

The Ivanka Trump effect: Women flock to plastic surgeons to copy blonde bombshell's looks.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailys ... urgery/amp


There you go - you can gnaw on that for awhile.

Real news about women getting surgery to look fake.lol
Are you going under the knife and dying your hair blonde also?


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12 Mar 2017, 11:46 pm

Trump threatens Republicans.

Vote for "Obamacare-Lite", or get primaried.

Meaning Trump will visit your area and "trash talk" you to your constituents.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump ... le/2617074



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13 Mar 2017, 12:01 am

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Trump threatens Republicans.

Vote for "Obamacare-Lite", or get primaried.

Meaning Trump will visit your area and "trash talk" you to your constituents.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump ... le/2617074


This "Obamacare-Lite" is not going to cover as many people as Obamacare did. What happened to Trump's promise of soemthing that's going to be "yuuuuge," and "terrific?"


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13 Mar 2017, 12:33 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Trump threatens Republicans.

Vote for "Obamacare-Lite", or get primaried.

Meaning Trump will visit your area and "trash talk" you to your constituents.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump ... le/2617074


This "Obamacare-Lite" is not going to cover as many people as Obamacare did. What happened to Trump's promise of soemthing that's going to be "yuuuuge," and "terrific?"

HHS Sec. Tom Price says Trump-care will make health-care cheaper, so more people can afford to buy coverage.



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13 Mar 2017, 1:05 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Trump threatens Republicans.

Vote for "Obamacare-Lite", or get primaried.

Meaning Trump will visit your area and "trash talk" you to your constituents.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump ... le/2617074


This "Obamacare-Lite" is not going to cover as many people as Obamacare did. What happened to Trump's promise of soemthing that's going to be "yuuuuge," and "terrific?"

HHS Sec. Tom Price says Trump-care will make health-care cheaper, so more people can afford to buy coverage.


What about those people who are so low income that they can't afford to buy any kind of health insurance? How will they be covered? Or are they acceptable losses?


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13 Mar 2017, 3:01 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Trump threatens Republicans.

Vote for "Obamacare-Lite", or get primaried.

Meaning Trump will visit your area and "trash talk" you to your constituents.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump ... le/2617074


This "Obamacare-Lite" is not going to cover as many people as Obamacare did. What happened to Trump's promise of soemthing that's going to be "yuuuuge," and "terrific?"

HHS Sec. Tom Price says Trump-care will make health-care cheaper, so more people can afford to buy coverage.


What about those people who are so low income that they can't afford to buy any kind of health insurance? How will they be covered? Or are they acceptable losses?


This is what is talked about now ....

1. The very, very poor get Medicaid, until it's phased out in 2020. However, it's "grandfathered in" for existing ACA-Medicaid-expansion participants *if they don't lapse in coverage*. As soon as they lapse in coverage, then their out on their keister.

After 2020, people have to look elsewhere.

Additionally, there will be home equity means-testing on these so-called "very, very poor" to check not only their income, but also their assets.

2. The very poor get "tax credits".

It will work like the ACA subsidy, the payment will be sent to the insurance company, and you will report it on your taxes.

However, here's the interesting part.

It won't be a subsidy, rather it will function like a pre-tax refund.

For the very poor, who don't pay much federal taxes, this will come right out of their tax refund.

That means the very poor will be required to have "skin in the game" now.



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13 Mar 2017, 3:48 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Trump threatens Republicans.

Vote for "Obamacare-Lite", or get primaried.

Meaning Trump will visit your area and "trash talk" you to your constituents.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump ... le/2617074


This "Obamacare-Lite" is not going to cover as many people as Obamacare did. What happened to Trump's promise of soemthing that's going to be "yuuuuge," and "terrific?"

HHS Sec. Tom Price says Trump-care will make health-care cheaper, so more people can afford to buy coverage.


What about those people who are so low income that they can't afford to buy any kind of health insurance? How will they be covered? Or are they acceptable losses?


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13 Mar 2017, 5:27 am

Donald Trump isn't my President and maybe this message is inappropriate.

The new president of the United States of America is very famous beyond frontiers.
In the western Europe, because we have a different culture — it's not better or worse, it's a fact — medias are disappointed by this election.
However, no one questions legally his election. It's not the debate, but it's easy to think American people have elected Donald Trump (because we don't know how the American president is elected, ect.).

I study this in my college.
Donald Trump was elected by only 25% of American, is it right ? In the United States, the people doesn't vote in a majority (only 50-55%, I believe).
As a matter of fact, I don't consider it's a reason to say about American : "They are new fascists". There is a lot of socio-political reasons to explain this resultat.
By the way, an American President is less powerful (regarding to the Constitution) that a French president. So, Donald Trump can't be a danger for this country, isn't it ?

I'm only worry about nominations in the supreme court. Democrats judges are very old. Donald Trump — and the Republican Party — could influence its political direction for ten, twenty, thirty years.
I'm worry because regarding to my education, to my culture, I can't be a support of the new President of the U.S.A. However, it's not in my business. It's impossible to judge someone, moreover to judge a people only because of they elected Donald Trump. I'm against these statements, because it's America first. It's an American problem. No one (especially in Europe) has the right to claim a such thing.

— There is maybe a lot of mistakes in my sentences. My English isn't very good but I want to improve it —.


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13 Mar 2017, 5:33 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Trump threatens Republicans.

Vote for "Obamacare-Lite", or get primaried.

Meaning Trump will visit your area and "trash talk" you to your constituents.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump ... le/2617074


This "Obamacare-Lite" is not going to cover as many people as Obamacare did. What happened to Trump's promise of soemthing that's going to be "yuuuuge," and "terrific?"

HHS Sec. Tom Price says Trump-care will make health-care cheaper, so more people can afford to buy coverage.


What about those people who are so low income that they can't afford to buy any kind of health insurance? How will they be covered? Or are they acceptable losses?


This is what is talked about now ....

1. The very, very poor get Medicaid, until it's phased out in 2020. However, it's "grandfathered in" for existing ACA-Medicaid-expansion participants *if they don't lapse in coverage*. As soon as they lapse in coverage, then their out on their keister.

After 2020, people have to look elsewhere.

Additionally, there will be home equity means-testing on these so-called "very, very poor" to check not only their income, but also their assets.

2. The very poor get "tax credits".

It will work like the ACA subsidy, the payment will be sent to the insurance company, and you will report it on your taxes.

However, here's the interesting part.

It won't be a subsidy, rather it will function like a pre-tax refund.

For the very poor, who don't pay much federal taxes, this will come right out of their tax refund.

That means the very poor will be required to have "skin in the game" now.


That tells me that the very "forgotten" men and women Trump had courted, if they're smart, will be reconsidering their votes next Presidential election.
And what the hell does the poor having to have "skin in the game" mean?


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