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Who will you be voting for this election?
Obama 33%  33%  [ 18 ]
A Republican candidate 17%  17%  [ 9 ]
Someone else (please specify) 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
No one 19%  19%  [ 10 ]
Not sure yet 19%  19%  [ 10 ]
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04 Dec 2011, 10:58 pm

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Can you site an incident in which Occupy Wall Street Protesters flung poop at them........or that they are 'deranged'? also in this poop incident what happened to provoke them?

I may be alone in this belief but I think it is safe to say that, regardless of provocation, one should never fling feces.

Unless, of course, the prosepctive recipient of the feces is an unapologetic nincompoop.


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04 Dec 2011, 11:43 pm

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Can you site an incident in which Occupy Wall Street Protesters flung poop at them........or that they are 'deranged'? also in this poop incident what happened to provoke them?

I may be alone in this belief but I think it is safe to say that, regardless of provocation, one should never fling feces.


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05 Dec 2011, 1:02 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
dmm1010 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Can you site an incident in which Occupy Wall Street Protesters flung poop at them........or that they are 'deranged'? also in this poop incident what happened to provoke them?

I may be alone in this belief but I think it is safe to say that, regardless of provocation, one should never fling feces.


Well the thing is I doubt it happened in the first place.


That is what I am wondering.

I myself am a centrist though. Bit of an anarchist at heart BUT I recognize the need for regulation. As for my View on the Tea Party movement and OWS, i have met both decent people and total a**holes from both sides, and it runs about even, although the worst more personal attacks ive seen were from the Tea Party movement, especially the ones who are all "If you lost your job you are lazy and deserve to die." That to me due to current circumstances being much more personal for me than the worst ive heard from OWS members I have known.

Regardless though, as I said, both sides have their good and bad people. At times though I feel both groups are misled to hell, not truly being formed to help, but to get specific parties to have every spot in the House, senate and whatnot. But I don't support either side to say the least. All I can say is that regardless of what happens in the election, USA is gonna be f****d even further, can almost guarantee it.

I could always leave the country and live somewhere else, but ill just be classified under the "All americans are evil capitalist pigs" stereotype and get hate crimes happening against me. So whatever, just gonna sit here til s**t truly goes to hell and hope something happens that kills me near instantly.


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05 Dec 2011, 2:50 am

DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
dmm1010 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Can you site an incident in which Occupy Wall Street Protesters flung poop at them........or that they are 'deranged'? also in this poop incident what happened to provoke them?

I may be alone in this belief but I think it is safe to say that, regardless of provocation, one should never fling feces.


Well the thing is I doubt it happened in the first place.


That is what I am wondering.

I myself am a centrist though. Bit of an anarchist at heart BUT I recognize the need for regulation. As for my View on the Tea Party movement and OWS, i have met both decent people and total a**holes from both sides, and it runs about even, although the worst more personal attacks ive seen were from the Tea Party movement, especially the ones who are all "If you lost your job you are lazy and deserve to die." That to me due to current circumstances being much more personal for me than the worst ive heard from OWS members I have known.

Regardless though, as I said, both sides have their good and bad people. At times though I feel both groups are misled to hell, not truly being formed to help, but to get specific parties to have every spot in the House, senate and whatnot. But I don't support either side to say the least. All I can say is that regardless of what happens in the election, USA is gonna be f**** even further, can almost guarantee it.

I could always leave the country and live somewhere else, but ill just be classified under the "All americans are evil capitalist pigs" stereotype and get hate crimes happening against me. So whatever, just gonna sit here til sh** truly goes to hell and hope something happens that kills me near instantly.


Is it okay to raise taxes on Small Business owners when they are struggling to keep their businesses open?

How about people start listening to what people actually say...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0pNZ4Cycp4[/youtube]

Back in 2008

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SavgJlBLA[/youtube]



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05 Dec 2011, 3:35 am

Inuyasha wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
dmm1010 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Can you site an incident in which Occupy Wall Street Protesters flung poop at them........or that they are 'deranged'? also in this poop incident what happened to provoke them?

I may be alone in this belief but I think it is safe to say that, regardless of provocation, one should never fling feces.


Well the thing is I doubt it happened in the first place.


That is what I am wondering.

I myself am a centrist though. Bit of an anarchist at heart BUT I recognize the need for regulation. As for my View on the Tea Party movement and OWS, i have met both decent people and total a**holes from both sides, and it runs about even, although the worst more personal attacks ive seen were from the Tea Party movement, especially the ones who are all "If you lost your job you are lazy and deserve to die." That to me due to current circumstances being much more personal for me than the worst ive heard from OWS members I have known.

Regardless though, as I said, both sides have their good and bad people. At times though I feel both groups are misled to hell, not truly being formed to help, but to get specific parties to have every spot in the House, senate and whatnot. But I don't support either side to say the least. All I can say is that regardless of what happens in the election, USA is gonna be f**** even further, can almost guarantee it.

I could always leave the country and live somewhere else, but ill just be classified under the "All americans are evil capitalist pigs" stereotype and get hate crimes happening against me. So whatever, just gonna sit here til sh** truly goes to hell and hope something happens that kills me near instantly.


Is it okay to raise taxes on Small Business owners when they are struggling to keep their businesses open?

How about people start listening to what people actually say...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0pNZ4Cycp4[/youtube]

Back in 2008

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SavgJlBLA[/youtube]


"Your" tax cuts are shrinking? Well, that "your" doesn't reference me. And I have a sneaking feeling that it doesn't really refer to you, either.
And how many small business owners are even going to be affected one way or the other? And if you provide an answer to my rhetorical question, I pray you don't rely on some unbelievably slanted Republican source.

And by the way, most people who are the kind to cling to both guns and religion in rural areas are generally embittered.

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05 Dec 2011, 3:44 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
dmm1010 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Can you site an incident in which Occupy Wall Street Protesters flung poop at them........or that they are 'deranged'? also in this poop incident what happened to provoke them?

I may be alone in this belief but I think it is safe to say that, regardless of provocation, one should never fling feces.


Well the thing is I doubt it happened in the first place.


That is what I am wondering.

I myself am a centrist though. Bit of an anarchist at heart BUT I recognize the need for regulation. As for my View on the Tea Party movement and OWS, i have met both decent people and total a**holes from both sides, and it runs about even, although the worst more personal attacks ive seen were from the Tea Party movement, especially the ones who are all "If you lost your job you are lazy and deserve to die." That to me due to current circumstances being much more personal for me than the worst ive heard from OWS members I have known.

Regardless though, as I said, both sides have their good and bad people. At times though I feel both groups are misled to hell, not truly being formed to help, but to get specific parties to have every spot in the House, senate and whatnot. But I don't support either side to say the least. All I can say is that regardless of what happens in the election, USA is gonna be f**** even further, can almost guarantee it.

I could always leave the country and live somewhere else, but ill just be classified under the "All americans are evil capitalist pigs" stereotype and get hate crimes happening against me. So whatever, just gonna sit here til sh** truly goes to hell and hope something happens that kills me near instantly.


Is it okay to raise taxes on Small Business owners when they are struggling to keep their businesses open?

How about people start listening to what people actually say...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0pNZ4Cycp4[/youtube]

Back in 2008

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SavgJlBLA[/youtube]


"Your" tax cuts are shrinking? Well, that "your" doesn't reference me. And I have a sneaking feeling that it doesn't really refer to you, either.
And how many small business owners are even going to be affected one way or the other? And if you provide an answer to my rhetorical question, I pray you don't rely on some unbelievably slanted Republican source.

And by the way, most people who are the kind to cling to both guns and religion in rural areas are generally embittered.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I'm talking about how the number is shrinking. Furthermore...

White House Office of Management and Budget Director Jack Lew outlined President Barack Obama's plan to pay for his $447 billion jobs plan — mostly through tax increases.

Lew said itemized tax deductions and exemptions for those making more than $200,000, and families earning more than $250,000 would be cut — raising about $400 billion to pay for Obama's jobs plan over 10 years.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-jo ... z1feEcIZF0

Doesn't look like we're talking about "Millionaires and Billionaires," looks more like we're talking about small business owners.



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The stupid, it burns...!



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The stupid, it burns...!


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05 Dec 2011, 4:02 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
dmm1010 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Can you site an incident in which Occupy Wall Street Protesters flung poop at them........or that they are 'deranged'? also in this poop incident what happened to provoke them?

I may be alone in this belief but I think it is safe to say that, regardless of provocation, one should never fling feces.


Well the thing is I doubt it happened in the first place.


That is what I am wondering.

I myself am a centrist though. Bit of an anarchist at heart BUT I recognize the need for regulation. As for my View on the Tea Party movement and OWS, i have met both decent people and total a**holes from both sides, and it runs about even, although the worst more personal attacks ive seen were from the Tea Party movement, especially the ones who are all "If you lost your job you are lazy and deserve to die." That to me due to current circumstances being much more personal for me than the worst ive heard from OWS members I have known.

Regardless though, as I said, both sides have their good and bad people. At times though I feel both groups are misled to hell, not truly being formed to help, but to get specific parties to have every spot in the House, senate and whatnot. But I don't support either side to say the least. All I can say is that regardless of what happens in the election, USA is gonna be f**** even further, can almost guarantee it.

I could always leave the country and live somewhere else, but ill just be classified under the "All americans are evil capitalist pigs" stereotype and get hate crimes happening against me. So whatever, just gonna sit here til sh** truly goes to hell and hope something happens that kills me near instantly.


Is it okay to raise taxes on Small Business owners when they are struggling to keep their businesses open?

How about people start listening to what people actually say...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0pNZ4Cycp4[/youtube]

Back in 2008

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SavgJlBLA[/youtube]


"Your" tax cuts are shrinking? Well, that "your" doesn't reference me. And I have a sneaking feeling that it doesn't really refer to you, either.
And how many small business owners are even going to be affected one way or the other? And if you provide an answer to my rhetorical question, I pray you don't rely on some unbelievably slanted Republican source.

And by the way, most people who are the kind to cling to both guns and religion in rural areas are generally embittered.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I'm talking about how the number is shrinking. Furthermore...

White House Office of Management and Budget Director Jack Lew outlined President Barack Obama's plan to pay for his $447 billion jobs plan — mostly through tax increases.

Lew said itemized tax deductions and exemptions for those making more than $200,000, and families earning more than $250,000 would be cut — raising about $400 billion to pay for Obama's jobs plan over 10 years.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-jo ... z1feEcIZF0

Doesn't look like we're talking about "Millionaires and Billionaires," looks more like we're talking about small business owners.


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05 Dec 2011, 4:04 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
dmm1010 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Can you site an incident in which Occupy Wall Street Protesters flung poop at them........or that they are 'deranged'? also in this poop incident what happened to provoke them?

I may be alone in this belief but I think it is safe to say that, regardless of provocation, one should never fling feces.


Well the thing is I doubt it happened in the first place.


That is what I am wondering.

I myself am a centrist though. Bit of an anarchist at heart BUT I recognize the need for regulation. As for my View on the Tea Party movement and OWS, i have met both decent people and total a**holes from both sides, and it runs about even, although the worst more personal attacks ive seen were from the Tea Party movement, especially the ones who are all "If you lost your job you are lazy and deserve to die." That to me due to current circumstances being much more personal for me than the worst ive heard from OWS members I have known.

Regardless though, as I said, both sides have their good and bad people. At times though I feel both groups are misled to hell, not truly being formed to help, but to get specific parties to have every spot in the House, senate and whatnot. But I don't support either side to say the least. All I can say is that regardless of what happens in the election, USA is gonna be f**** even further, can almost guarantee it.

I could always leave the country and live somewhere else, but ill just be classified under the "All americans are evil capitalist pigs" stereotype and get hate crimes happening against me. So whatever, just gonna sit here til sh** truly goes to hell and hope something happens that kills me near instantly.


Is it okay to raise taxes on Small Business owners when they are struggling to keep their businesses open?

How about people start listening to what people actually say...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0pNZ4Cycp4[/youtube]

Back in 2008

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SavgJlBLA[/youtube]


"Your" tax cuts are shrinking? Well, that "your" doesn't reference me. And I have a sneaking feeling that it doesn't really refer to you, either.
And how many small business owners are even going to be affected one way or the other? And if you provide an answer to my rhetorical question, I pray you don't rely on some unbelievably slanted Republican source.

And by the way, most people who are the kind to cling to both guns and religion in rural areas are generally embittered.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I'm talking about how the number is shrinking. Furthermore...

White House Office of Management and Budget Director Jack Lew outlined President Barack Obama's plan to pay for his $447 billion jobs plan — mostly through tax increases.

Lew said itemized tax deductions and exemptions for those making more than $200,000, and families earning more than $250,000 would be cut — raising about $400 billion to pay for Obama's jobs plan over 10 years.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-jo ... z1feEcIZF0

Doesn't look like we're talking about "Millionaires and Billionaires," looks more like we're talking about small business owners.


As I like you, I won't be mean, and say, "What LKL said."

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Quite frankly I couldn't care less what LKL said.



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05 Dec 2011, 4:13 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
dmm1010 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Can you site an incident in which Occupy Wall Street Protesters flung poop at them........or that they are 'deranged'? also in this poop incident what happened to provoke them?

I may be alone in this belief but I think it is safe to say that, regardless of provocation, one should never fling feces.


Well the thing is I doubt it happened in the first place.


That is what I am wondering.

I myself am a centrist though. Bit of an anarchist at heart BUT I recognize the need for regulation. As for my View on the Tea Party movement and OWS, i have met both decent people and total a**holes from both sides, and it runs about even, although the worst more personal attacks ive seen were from the Tea Party movement, especially the ones who are all "If you lost your job you are lazy and deserve to die." That to me due to current circumstances being much more personal for me than the worst ive heard from OWS members I have known.

Regardless though, as I said, both sides have their good and bad people. At times though I feel both groups are misled to hell, not truly being formed to help, but to get specific parties to have every spot in the House, senate and whatnot. But I don't support either side to say the least. All I can say is that regardless of what happens in the election, USA is gonna be f**** even further, can almost guarantee it.

I could always leave the country and live somewhere else, but ill just be classified under the "All americans are evil capitalist pigs" stereotype and get hate crimes happening against me. So whatever, just gonna sit here til sh** truly goes to hell and hope something happens that kills me near instantly.


Is it okay to raise taxes on Small Business owners when they are struggling to keep their businesses open?

How about people start listening to what people actually say...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0pNZ4Cycp4[/youtube]

Back in 2008

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SavgJlBLA[/youtube]


"Your" tax cuts are shrinking? Well, that "your" doesn't reference me. And I have a sneaking feeling that it doesn't really refer to you, either.
And how many small business owners are even going to be affected one way or the other? And if you provide an answer to my rhetorical question, I pray you don't rely on some unbelievably slanted Republican source.

And by the way, most people who are the kind to cling to both guns and religion in rural areas are generally embittered.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I'm talking about how the number is shrinking. Furthermore...

White House Office of Management and Budget Director Jack Lew outlined President Barack Obama's plan to pay for his $447 billion jobs plan — mostly through tax increases.

Lew said itemized tax deductions and exemptions for those making more than $200,000, and families earning more than $250,000 would be cut — raising about $400 billion to pay for Obama's jobs plan over 10 years.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-jo ... z1feEcIZF0

Doesn't look like we're talking about "Millionaires and Billionaires," looks more like we're talking about small business owners.


As I like you, I won't be mean, and say, "What LKL said."

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Quite frankly I couldn't care less what LKL said.


Only trying to be nice.

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Obama.

Obama has actually had the strongest ethics of any administration in modern times, which to me suggests that he has strong leadership skills. I would rather have him than anyone else in charge of this nation during a crisis.


He's not in charge though...


True. Congress makes the laws and thus calls the shots.



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Sweetleaf wrote:
WilliamWDelaney wrote:
Obama.

Obama has actually had the strongest ethics of any administration in modern times, which to me suggests that he has strong leadership skills. I would rather have him than anyone else in charge of this nation during a crisis.


He's not in charge though...


True. Congress makes the laws and thus calls the shots.


Ever heard of a Veto?

Additionally the Republicans only control 1/2 of the Legislature, the Democrats control the Senate.

There is at least 20 pieces of legislation that have passed in the House that Harry Reid won't even allow up for debate in the Senate.



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05 Dec 2011, 2:33 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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Sweetleaf wrote:
WilliamWDelaney wrote:
Obama.

Obama has actually had the strongest ethics of any administration in modern times, which to me suggests that he has strong leadership skills. I would rather have him than anyone else in charge of this nation during a crisis.


He's not in charge though...


True. Congress makes the laws and thus calls the shots.


Ever heard of a Veto?

Additionally the Republicans only control 1/2 of the Legislature, the Democrats control the Senate.

There is at least 20 pieces of legislation that have passed in the House that Harry Reid won't even allow up for debate in the Senate.


Praise the Lord that he won't!

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05 Dec 2011, 2:38 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
WilliamWDelaney wrote:
Obama.

Obama has actually had the strongest ethics of any administration in modern times, which to me suggests that he has strong leadership skills. I would rather have him than anyone else in charge of this nation during a crisis.


He's not in charge though...


True. Congress makes the laws and thus calls the shots.


Ever heard of a Veto?

Additionally the Republicans only control 1/2 of the Legislature, the Democrats control the Senate.

There is at least 20 pieces of legislation that have passed in the House that Harry Reid won't even allow up for debate in the Senate.


Praise the Lord that he won't!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


:roll:

It has been over 900 days since there was even talk of a budget in the United States Senate. Kraichgauer, you are being so blatently partisan I'm surprised you haven't recognized it yet.

Harry Reid and Obama want nothing to get done at this point, because they want to blame obstructionist Republicans. The reality is the ones being Obstructionist are Democrats in the Senate to try to help Obama get re-elected.

Many of the bills that have passed the house had bi-partisan support.

You need to face the facts Kraichgauer.



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05 Dec 2011, 2:44 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
WilliamWDelaney wrote:
Obama.

Obama has actually had the strongest ethics of any administration in modern times, which to me suggests that he has strong leadership skills. I would rather have him than anyone else in charge of this nation during a crisis.


He's not in charge though...


True. Congress makes the laws and thus calls the shots.


Ever heard of a Veto?

Additionally the Republicans only control 1/2 of the Legislature, the Democrats control the Senate.

There is at least 20 pieces of legislation that have passed in the House that Harry Reid won't even allow up for debate in the Senate.


Praise the Lord that he won't!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


:roll:

It has been over 900 days since there was even talk of a budget in the United States Senate. Kraichgauer, you are being so blatently partisan I'm surprised you haven't recognized it yet.

Harry Reid and Obama want nothing to get done at this point, because they want to blame obstructionist Republicans. The reality is the ones being Obstructionist are Democrats in the Senate to try to help Obama get re-elected.

Many of the bills that have passed the house had bi-partisan support.

You need to face the facts Kraichgauer.


Those bi-partisan bills are largely the work of Republicans and blue dog (turncoat) Democrats. The bills are loaded with cuts for social programs, and tax breaks for the corporations and the super wealthy. If wanting to keep that off the floor of the Senate makes me partisan, then I freely admit, guilty as charged!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer