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It is the killing of an unborn chld
It is not considered murder 68%  68%  [ 40 ]
It is somewhat considered murder 32%  32%  [ 19 ]
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22 Jan 2012, 5:39 pm

no but there are timeframes where a normal consciousness isnt present and where it physically ant exist.


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23 Jan 2012, 12:39 am

donnie_darko wrote:
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Mr. Darko, I suggest that you look at the neurological evidence that already exists before spouting off about how we need more studies, and I suggest that you learn to differentiate based on gestational age.


I have looked at it. I still think it's far from being conclusive or complete.

do you have enough of a biology backing to understand it? Do you understand the significance of neocortical development and hypothalamic linkages?
Do you just want it to be inconclusive so that you don't have to face the truth?


What truth? Are you telling me it's been PROVEN consciousness begins at birth?

Absolutely not; that's a straw man. I'm telling you that it's a neurological fact that the zef isn't conscious intil the late 2nd trimester, at the absloute, distant earliest, with a huge benefit of the doubt. More likely it isn't conscious until the 3rd trimester, because that's when things start to link up and there are enough functional neurons to actually do anything.