Why is there so much liberal hate?

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I see the same sentiments on mainstream conservative media regularly. The thing they mostly get criticized for from the conservative media is their "God hates soldiers" and "God hates America" viewpoints. I know all conservatives are not like that, but a great deal are.



I think separating economic and social conservatism makes this easier to discuss. Many social conservative ideals are contradictory with the economic conservative ones. Because they are tied together due to your two party system, economic conservatives that would otherwise not care about gays end up having this religious "controversy" thrust in their direction. So if you say that a great many Republicans are not anti-gay, you would be correct




I appreciate that you are willing to engage in an actual discussion

Liberals at least in my opinon are to soft. On the worst kinds of criminals. Like rapists childmolesters ect. In my opinon when you do those things you have no rights.

Other then that I don't mind Liberals. Their just to soft on crime.

If you're working two jobs and your wife works and you can't afford rent and food you're doing it wrong.

Pretty much summed it up. Good job.

You should learn from history, but keep it out of irrelevant issues. It wasn't relevant at all to the part of my post you tried to use it against. Basically, that's the poorest argument you could offer unless the discussion is about nazism. You could say "you're wrong because [reason]", but you should know I'm perfectly aware of the situation as it is, and they do have more rights. If you can't respond to something by criticizing the content, please don't comment on it at all and admit defeat in that point instead of drawing a false parallel between the current situation and nazism. It just makes you look ridiculous.



Anywhere in the world has a pattern of this happening throughout history. In today's world, ethnic cleansing is mostly limited to Africa, where tribes and ethnic groups are up in arms continuously.



You weren't when you compared criticism of preference treatment to nazism. Don't go off on a tangent. You lost.



Action, reaction. Even though Germany is in a better situation than the Netherlands at the moment, they do have a lot of trouble with foreigners. Their government, meanwhile, is still stuck in the Early Dutch 2000s, when discussing the problems of multiculturalism was usually not allowed and right-wing populists were able to attract votes by speaking out against multiculturalism, something more European voters want than anyone in power would admit. Germany, and I've visited it several times, is a country that still suffers from the war taboo. Displaying nazi imagery is banned, even in video games where the purpose is to shoot nazis, and a lot of things are simply banned in Germany because of politically-incorrect references to the war. The BVS, as mentioned in the article, is jokingly referred to by a German I know as "the guys who come knocking at your door when you accidentally read something racist on the internet".



I might have chosen an inconvenient citation. However, truth is that the majority of the city's population is now foreign, and it's a bad place to live. As for temporary work visas, I'm not even sure if they exist. If people want to move here and work, they do - often without paying taxes or telling authorities. You can tell who's working by asking for their paperwork. The only reason to apply for citizenship is welfare.

Great post. I agree with everything you said. However, your problem is not noticing that government causes all the problems you listed. Who supports these multinational corporations? Gov. Who goes to war? Gov. You think giving Gov. more money is going to solve your issues? I think not. Yes, healthcare for all sounds good but like milton friedman said all government problems tend to have opposite effects.

Protecting citizens by what, throwing them in jail for petty crimes? For assassinating citizens? Get real dude. Government should protect and serve it's citizens by leaving them alone, letting them rule themselves, protecting liberty, and providing a national defense.

The rise of neo-Nazism in Europe is relevant to a discussion about immigrants, ethnic minorities, and figures like Anders Breivik - which were all topics that came up.

You only protested when the historical context and political reality was brought up, and now you're scrambling to get both of these issues off the table. I can understand why. They certainly are "inconvenient".



Whatever you want it to be, apparently.

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I agree with bizboy1 QFT. A govermeant big enough to give you everything. Is a govermeant big enough to take it all away.

bull, plenty of scandinavian countries did better during the financial crisis than many other countries despite public healthcare and education, many of them also rank higher than the us in economic and personal freedom by the freedom index.

Dude, Brevik wasn't exactly a liberal feminist. He had a lot more in common with the Islamists than he'd probably like to recognize. He wrote a manifesto, you know; we have a pretty good grasp of his politics.

Look at some of the numbers before you make statements like that. They're freely available; how about you mitigate your ignorance before jumping in again, eh?

I do believe Lord_Gareth made the first ignorant statemeant by calling me Stupid.

No he didn't

Look at page one when he said. He Moron tisk tisk you really should look into things befor butting in

He called you a Moron, not stupid.