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06 Aug 2012, 4:43 pm

aSKperger wrote:

I know. But I don't mean intelligence games, that's to safe. Gun freedom! Let's make world better place by another arming. Who cares it always failed.

You are not a realist. That is a fact.

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06 Aug 2012, 5:10 pm

Raptor wrote:

aSKperger wrote:

I know. But I don't mean intelligence games, that's to safe. Gun freedom! Let's make world better place by another arming. Who cares it always failed.

You are not a realist. That is a fact.

the reality is that it does not make a hill of beans of difference either way.

I say let Raptor have his gun and stop bothering him he has a gun for gods sake.

It is also important to note that all the B.S. about guns lowering crime should also be
taken with a huge grain of salt perhaps the whole cellar.

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06 Aug 2012, 5:39 pm

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Raptor wrote:

aSKperger wrote:

I know. But I don't mean intelligence games, that's to safe. Gun freedom! Let's make world better place by another arming. Who cares it always failed.

You are not a realist. That is a fact.

the reality is that it does not make a hill of beans of difference either way.

Raptor is going to have his gun, anyway.

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06 Aug 2012, 6:45 pm

Raptor wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

Raptor wrote:

aSKperger wrote:

I know. But I don't mean intelligence games, that's to safe. Gun freedom! Let's make world better place by another arming. Who cares it always failed.

You are not a realist. That is a fact.

the reality is that it does not make a hill of beans of difference either way.

Raptor is going to have his gun, anyway.

of course you are sweety. of course you are.

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06 Aug 2012, 6:51 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

Raptor wrote:

JakobVirgil wrote:

Raptor wrote:

aSKperger wrote:

I know. But I don't mean intelligence games, that's to safe. Gun freedom! Let's make world better place by another arming. Who cares it always failed.

You are not a realist. That is a fact.

the reality is that it does not make a hill of beans of difference either way.

Raptor is going to have his gun, anyway.

of course you are sweety. of course you are.

Nice to see you still love me.
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07 Aug 2012, 8:27 am

There would be no difference, people will still find ways of shooting each other. You can't expect humans to not be violent pricks by making things illegal.

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07 Aug 2012, 9:02 am

MONKEY - what people. You? How?

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07 Aug 2012, 9:37 am

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MONKEY - what people. You? How?

Anyone that has ever, still does or will use a weapon such as a gun on somebody else. People are capable of all sorts of nasty s**t.

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07 Aug 2012, 9:52 am

MONKEY wrote:

aSKperger wrote:

MONKEY - what people. You? How?

Anyone that has ever, still does or will use a weapon such as a gun on somebody else. People are capable of all sorts of nasty sh**.

The fact we can also point out what is nasty argues for a higher nature.

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07 Aug 2012, 10:09 am

MONKEY wrote:

There would be no difference, people will still find ways of shooting each other. You can't expect humans to not be violent pricks by making things illegal.

You are quite right. Mere illegalization never stopped anything entirely.

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07 Aug 2012, 10:42 am

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MONKEY wrote:

There would be no difference, people will still find ways of shooting each other. You can't expect humans to not be violent pricks by making things illegal.

You are quite right. Mere illegalization never stopped anything entirely.

ruveyn

Just because illegalization never stops things entirely does not mean illegalization is not useful.

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07 Aug 2012, 10:57 am

Guns are banned here in the UK and it's much safer here in comparison to the USA.

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07 Aug 2012, 11:06 am

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ruveyn wrote:

MONKEY wrote:

There would be no difference, people will still find ways of shooting each other. You can't expect humans to not be violent pricks by making things illegal.

You are quite right. Mere illegalization never stopped anything entirely.

ruveyn

Just because illegalization never stops things entirely does not mean illegalization is not useful.

1. Useful in disabling people from protecting themselves.
2. Useful in creating black market issues.

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07 Aug 2012, 11:06 am

Making something illegal does not make it disappear. It's still there, just not out in the open.

I also don't buy into the whole "only criminals will have guns" business, except in the strictest sense of the word. I'm sure that plenty of otherwise law abiding citizens, who value their 2nd Ammendment rights (I'm in the USA) will find a way to keep at least one or two of their guns or obtain new ones from a non-criminal (read non thug/robber/killer etc) dealer. So, I'd imagine that at least 25% of the registered gun owners in the US today would find a way to keep their guns. Not every gun that a non criminal has is registered anyway. If you want to see a criminal as anyone who disobeys the law then yes they will be "criminals" but they won't be out committing crimes with their guns.

We don't have a gun in our house because my husband doesn't like them, but to be honest, if gun ownership were to be made illegal here, I gaurantee you that we would find a way to get one or two, even if nothing more than shotguns. All Hell would break loose if they took the guns away from those who don't use them for crime, in my opinion.

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07 Aug 2012, 11:12 am

Curiotical wrote:

Guns are banned here in the UK and it's much safer here in comparison to the USA.

They are not BANNED in the UK they are more heavily restricted.
Do some research before you reply and spare yourself from being shredded.
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07 Aug 2012, 11:22 am

Raptor wrote:

2. Useful in creating black market issues.

Nothing but your fantasy. LKL's article already shows most of the guns the criminals use does not come from some magical 'black market', but legal dealer in the US at some point.

The best way to protect innocent people is to have everybody suspected of carrying a gun reported, and the police to pick out everyone trying to buy or carry a gun, instead of letting the attacker come and then betting your shooting skill against them. The FBI's are not dummies.

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