Our friends, the Syrian 'rebels'

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Al-assad and his supporters are the civilized TRUE Syrians....the so called Rebels are Sunni terrorist and behead 10 year old boys and force women to dress head to toe in all black...no different from ISIS.

Agree

still can't understand what a propaganda is on the news in the West; if you watch the news in let's say America, Syria and Russia, it is to different

If nothing else, I think this war has shown what a folly strict non-interventionism is. It's had just as bad as strict interventionism.

150,000-ish died in eight years in Iraq (2003-2011). 400,000-ish have died in five years in Syria. Libya, for all the fuss about how disastrous the intervention there was, has only seen about 15,000 deaths in the same time frame, and Daesh have much less territory there. There wasn't an easy solution, but things would quite possibly have been better if we'd been less squeamish about supporting the FSA when they were still a credible force.

It's a real blessing that we didn't get behind al-Nusra or ISIS, but I do think we have been far too cautious in the post-Iraq world. From a utilitarian standpoint, we should have intervened early and helped the country regain stability and drive out the terrorists and war criminals on both sides.

It is an interesting thread, it was before ISIS was even ISIS and we were still speaking about these jihadists as al-Qaeda. I cannot agree that this war is a condemnation of non-intervention since it was interventionism that created the war in the first place, it was not something that happen organically or in a vacuum. If we didn't overthrow Saddam, if we didn't throw our support behind the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, if NATO didn't install a "no fly zone" over Libya, if the west didn't orchestrate a transfer of weapons/fighters thru Turkey into Syria, there is a lot of ifs but I think the biggest thing to take away is that there has been serious blowback for overt & covert intervention by the US in the Middle East. The whole region has been destabilized, if the US intervened at the point this thread was made it would of been a disaster since it would handed whole of Syria into the hands of jihadists with I think would start spilling over the border destabilizing Lebanon and attacking the borders with Israel.

US foreign policy is not easy to understand for anyone besides the most cynical, we simply have backed the wrong guy and corporate geo-strategic special interests far too often guide our policy. Going forward I think there is a tremendous opportunity to improve our relations with Russia given our shared interests in eradicating this jihadist threat, as I've always said one of the primary things that sold me on Trump was his stance towards Russia and my belief in him being able to use personal diplomacy in bringing about better relations. I think we have to be realistic, we cannot force western liberal democracy and Enlightenment ideas on peoples that do not want them and pursuing this idealism has had disastrous results as we can see with the current state of affairs. The best policy for the US I think is one of containment & stability, it is not our place to pick the leaders of other countries and we should work with those that will further this policy.

I am really happy about Trump's cabinet picks when it comes to foreign policy and defense, they show both a seriousness about the threats that we face and a fresh approach to our relations with other countries. I was worried that Mitt Romney or some neoconservative would of weaseled their way thru but Trump seems determined to change the status quo to this very important issue among many others. This last month can't move fast enough, this is the first time I've been optimistic about the future of this country in a long time.

Improve our relations with Russia? At the very least, we should give them so harsh words for helping Assad do what he's doing and also for what they're doing in Eastern Europe with Georgia and the Ukraine.

I believe Russia is trying to rebuild the USSR. Also, Russia is friends with Iran, that country that wants to blow Israel off the face of the earth and hates the US too and whom our charming President allowed to get nukes. The fact is, the Persians (the real people of Iran) don't even like the current regime in Iran. They might have been able to beat it, but Obama and the Big Business moguls (I'm talking to YOU Apple and Boeing!) decided that they couldn't have that and so lifted the sanctions.

Meanwhile, we have other problems, like the Chinese in the South China Sea. They are expanding with their fake islands and taking over. They just stole a drone from us. And Taiwan is feeling pretty nervous. And, as if that weren't bad enough, North Korea, a Chinese ally, is threatening to attack us and his missiles are getting stronger too thanks to our charming federal government and their blunders.

And, worst of all, the United Nations, the New Evil Empire. The UN was the Communists's backup plan in case the USSR fell. The UN and their puppets in the EU have been invading Europe with "refugees", who are going around raping people and trashing stuff. (Sweden is now the #2 rape capital in the WORLD.) And if you complain about what's going on, Zuckerberg on Facebook will report you to Frau Fuhrer's (Angela Merkel's) thought police brigade. Luckily, the UK had the sense to get out of the EU with #Brexit.

Meanwhile, another Fifth Column guy for the UN, Trudeau, is invading Canada with these "refugees". Obama did the same and they planned to do the same with Hillary, but luckily she lost. And the New Evil Empire has been calling those that don't go along with their plans "racist", "sexist", "xenophobe", "Islamophobe", "bigot", "homophobe", "transphobe", and "climate denier" to try and shut them down. And their latest attack is to claim that news that contradicts them is "fake news" and now FB is trying to censor "fake news" here in the US.

Also, Obummer and his pals tried to get rid of Netanyahu in Israel, even using US resources to do so, but luckily their plot to tip the Israeli election of Prime Minister failed.

And though Trump may have won, the Democrat Party in DC is a Fifth Column for the UN and many Republicans are also in league, either directly, or for the sake of their corporatist lobbying pals who are, with the Fifth Column effort.

So, in conclusion, we're a little busy here in the US and should worry about our own problems first. As for Trump's cabinet picks, some of them are good, but that Tillerson fellow has to be STOPPED.

Julian Assange tweeted out something interesting about the CIA's plan to overthrow the Syrian government back in 1986
https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/statu ... 0043101185



You don't think this wasn't planned do you?

Kind of reminds me of Dick Chaney speaking candidly about Iraq from the mid 90s



these people aren't stupid

Judicial Watch is plenty reliable

your own loonery is clouding your judgment, official documents speak for themselves