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19 Mar 2016, 10:40 am

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The Right has been sitting down for too long. It's time WE stood up and fought for this country. The Left keeps talking negatively about billionaire Trump when (according to the article in black and white) the Left is being funded by George Soros who is much richer than Trump. Any argument about the rich taking over this country and it is all the Republican's doing is BS. Soros funded the Occupy Movement before and he is now funding the Democracy Spring movement and there will be violence because that is what he wants. The little 78 yr old punching that guy is just the start of things to come.

There is really going to be an uprising from the Right if there is an Open Convention like what the Rhinos are saying they want - a force out of Trump and Cruz and the putting in of Paul Ryan or Jeb Bush who are not even in the race. There's going to be fighting from all sides - the Left against the Right, the Right against the current Republicans - A Civil War. I fully expect Martial Law to be started before the end of the year.


This isn't just YOUR country, other people live here too. Why is the nurse one of the more violent people on this forum?


You picked the wrong word - I'm not violent - I'm PASSIONATE - especially after what happened today. (See below)

Something that's on my mind - I did my taxes today and the tax man was telling me how much business they get in January from the people that are getting returns. He said the people that come in are the ones that don't pay anything into the system, but walk out with $7,000-10,000 refund. He said they don't have any checking accounts so they walk out with that big of a check and then down to Walmart and spend $6 to get it cashed and then are walking around with $7,000-10,000 pocket money. He said they usually have about 3-4 kids that they are getting the money back for. Isn't that just swell. Let's say that I'm in an even grumpier mood than usual.


Quit being a whiner and complainer. Accept that life is unfair. So, they get a $7000-$10,000, tough titties. Suck it up buttercup!


Buttercup? That sounds like a pet name. Are you making a pass at me? :mrgreen:


Nah, I probably would get herpes or some kind of crotch critters. :mrgreen:



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19 Mar 2016, 10:47 am

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it depends on why you're out and the prognosis. There is a reassessment every few years. Though that is just eligibility. There are also some people who are on it for a period, manage to improve or find some rare, super-ada accommodating place, go back to work, and close their case.
https://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-cdrs-ussi.htm

What people don't realize is that employers discriminate against people who haven't worked recently. They also discriminate against people who are "overqualified" due to having an advanced degree. I am currently on SSI and looking for work. Just because I might be able to work now doesn't mean employers are willing to hire me.


You also have to account for your absence. And reality is, being out on disability is seen as a risk for a company. It's far easier to not hire than potentially deal with fmla, ada, someone not ready to return to work,etc. In many ways, it's a blackball.


Okay, that's fine. Then nurseangela and others including companies shouldn't b***h about how unfair it is that they have to pay for our SSI/SSDI through their tax dollars.

Either accept this as a part of the unfairness of life and be consistent about this, eat a steaming pile of s**t and shut the f**k up or help us to get hired and/or hire us.



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19 Mar 2016, 10:55 am

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The whole problem with socialism is group blame. The wrong is that the actual people who permanently ruined the economy and destroyed the middle class should have been jailed and not bailed out. Not every uber rich person should be punished for the actions of thier brethren. As autistics we should be sensitive to group shaming.

Democratic socialism isn't about punishing the rich. It's about making the system more fair and not letting the vulnerable suffer. The money has to come from somewhere (unless you want to deal with unreasonable inflation rates). It simply makes more moral sense to tax those that don't absolutely need all the money they make at a higher rate. It has nothing to do with punishment. The current tax system primarily burdens the middle and upper-middle class while the rich find loopholes and pay lower rates. People like Bernie want to fix this. The majority of politicians favor the status quo (or want to cut taxes which will increase the deficit).


Stopping corporate welfare would free up a lot of money.


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19 Mar 2016, 10:59 am

Stopping corporate welfare could also free up a lot of people to look for other jobs.


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19 Mar 2016, 11:00 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
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nurseangela wrote:
The Right has been sitting down for too long. It's time WE stood up and fought for this country. The Left keeps talking negatively about billionaire Trump when (according to the article in black and white) the Left is being funded by George Soros who is much richer than Trump. Any argument about the rich taking over this country and it is all the Republican's doing is BS. Soros funded the Occupy Movement before and he is now funding the Democracy Spring movement and there will be violence because that is what he wants. The little 78 yr old punching that guy is just the start of things to come.

There is really going to be an uprising from the Right if there is an Open Convention like what the Rhinos are saying they want - a force out of Trump and Cruz and the putting in of Paul Ryan or Jeb Bush who are not even in the race. There's going to be fighting from all sides - the Left against the Right, the Right against the current Republicans - A Civil War. I fully expect Martial Law to be started before the end of the year.


This isn't just YOUR country, other people live here too. Why is the nurse one of the more violent people on this forum?


You picked the wrong word - I'm not violent - I'm PASSIONATE - especially after what happened today. (See below)

Something that's on my mind - I did my taxes today and the tax man was telling me how much business they get in January from the people that are getting returns. He said the people that come in are the ones that don't pay anything into the system, but walk out with $7,000-10,000 refund. He said they don't have any checking accounts so they walk out with that big of a check and then down to Walmart and spend $6 to get it cashed and then are walking around with $7,000-10,000 pocket money. He said they usually have about 3-4 kids that they are getting the money back for. Isn't that just swell. Let's say that I'm in an even grumpier mood than usual.


Quit being a whiner and complainer. Accept that life is unfair. So, they get a $7000-$10,000, tough titties. Suck it up buttercup!


Buttercup? That sounds like a pet name. Are you making a pass at me? :mrgreen:


Nah, I probably would get herpes or some kind of crotch critters. :mrgreen:

Or worse,Trumpitis.One of the symptoms is an uncontrollable urge to constantly blurt out "Go Trump."


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19 Mar 2016, 11:14 am

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This country tortures every day, our history is inseparable from torture from the very beginning if you want to be honest

but Bill Clinton, George W Bush, and Barack Obama has all made extensive use of torture

That doesn't make it right. Solitary confinement is also torture. As a society we will come to realize this eventually.


No but rhetoric is rhetoric, one is talking tough and the other is lying to my face. Talking about waterboarding doesn't even compare to what we have our friendly dictator friends do until we coincidentally decide later we need to kill them to. I'm talking medieval sick stuff so to talk about waterboarding when we had Gaddafi and Assad ripping the finger nails out of these guys all along. Priorities.

We shouldn't be fighting wars or having a pissing contest with Russia or China or anyone else, we should be battling for global hegemony, we should focus on making our own country great again.



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19 Mar 2016, 12:13 pm

this george soros funded attack on the political process which happening in Phoenix right niw is exactly why violence could happen

these people are trying to silence dissent

these dodos don't realize they're overplaying their hand



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19 Mar 2016, 1:19 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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This country tortures every day, our history is inseparable from torture from the very beginning if you want to be honest

but Bill Clinton, George W Bush, and Barack Obama has all made extensive use of torture

That doesn't make it right. Solitary confinement is also torture. As a society we will come to realize this eventually.


No but rhetoric is rhetoric, one is talking tough and the other is lying to my face. Talking about waterboarding doesn't even compare to what we have our friendly dictator friends do until we coincidentally decide later we need to kill them to. I'm talking medieval sick stuff so to talk about waterboarding when we had Gaddafi and Assad ripping the finger nails out of these guys all along. Priorities.

We shouldn't be fighting wars or having a pissing contest with Russia or China or anyone else, we should be battling for global hegemony, we should focus on making our own country great again.

I wouldn't doubt that we have done things just as bad,certainly things worse than water boarding.But we should have better principals,hold ourselves to a higher code.What disturbs me the most,is that the ones that are doing the torturing look like they are enjoying it the pics.
As for making America great again,it's still pretty great.Thats why people want to move here.Now if you want to really stop immigration,make America worse so that it's no longer one of the better places to live.
If you truly want to torture someone,force them to listen to Steve Millers Abracadabra for 24 hours straight.


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19 Mar 2016, 1:24 pm

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this george soros funded attack on the political process which happening in Phoenix right niw is exactly why violence could happen

these people are trying to silence dissent

these dodos don't realize they're overplaying their hand

Perfectly acceptable civil disobedience. It's what the first amendment is all about. And what "funds"? Is it expensive to walk around?



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19 Mar 2016, 1:28 pm

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No but rhetoric is rhetoric, one is talking tough and the other is lying to my face. Talking about waterboarding doesn't even compare to what we have our friendly dictator friends do until we coincidentally decide later we need to kill them to. I'm talking medieval sick stuff so to talk about waterboarding when we had Gaddafi and Assad ripping the finger nails out of these guys all along. Priorities.

We shouldn't be fighting wars or having a pissing contest with Russia or China or anyone else, we should be battling for global hegemony, we should focus on making our own country great again.

I agree rendition to torturing countries is a horrible practice and hypocritical. But waterboarding is just as much torture as anything else. Just because it involves water doesn't make it a walk in the park.

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19 Mar 2016, 1:41 pm

AspE wrote:
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this george soros funded attack on the political process which happening in Phoenix right niw is exactly why violence could happen

these people are trying to silence dissent

these dodos don't realize they're overplaying their hand

Perfectly acceptable civil disobedience. It's what the first amendment is all about. And what "funds"? Is it expensive to walk around?

they are breaking the law trying to silence dissent

those that make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable, remember that



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19 Mar 2016, 1:48 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
100000fireflies wrote:
marshall wrote:
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it depends on why you're out and the prognosis. There is a reassessment every few years. Though that is just eligibility. There are also some people who are on it for a period, manage to improve or find some rare, super-ada accommodating place, go back to work, and close their case.
https://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-cdrs-ussi.htm

What people don't realize is that employers discriminate against people who haven't worked recently. They also discriminate against people who are "overqualified" due to having an advanced degree. I am currently on SSI and looking for work. Just because I might be able to work now doesn't mean employers are willing to hire me.


You also have to account for your absence. And reality is, being out on disability is seen as a risk for a company. It's far easier to not hire than potentially deal with fmla, ada, someone not ready to return to work,etc. In many ways, it's a blackball.


Okay, that's fine. Then nurseangela and others including companies shouldn't b***h about how unfair it is that they have to pay for our SSI/SSDI through their tax dollars.

Either accept this as a part of the unfairness of life and be consistent about this, eat a steaming pile of s**t and shut the f**k up or help us to get hired and/or hire us.


That was my point. Being on disability/disabled is not a black and white thing where even if feeling a bit better, or able to work a Very select job with major accommodations, one can just run out and get that job. Companies do and will try to protect themselves by discriminating against those who have been out for a period and/or are viewed as 'risk'.

Many on disability cannot even work at all. And some - maybe with accommodations, but only a few hours/week. - and there you can get knocked off disability for not being 'disabled enough' since you can make any income; while those few hours won't pay for food let alone anything else.
So it's not "oh, i'm able to work a bit, hello employer!" And anyone who doesn't do that is a faker/abuser.


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19 Mar 2016, 1:52 pm

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I'm opposed to torture.For two reasons,first it's obviously inhumane,second I don't see how it would be that effective.People would give false info just to get it to stop.

If it weren't at least partially effective there wouldn't be such a temptation to use it. I don't trust governments with that power.


I'm not so sure about that. As trump said, he wants to do it *even if it's not effective*. Why? It's vengeance and a perverse joy in wielding power via harming another. The darkest side of humans.


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19 Mar 2016, 2:01 pm

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I agree with Marshall on the notion that anyone on the receiving end of disrespect, should have the right to reciprocate in a congruent manner.


The people on the receiving end of the most disrespect here, whether directed at them by name or not, are conservatives and religious people; people like, say, Angela, or Raptor. Maybe they'd be nicer if people weren't sh*****g on them all the time...


Nursesngela and Raptor have a particular way of posting that can be incredibly rude or dismissive to people who disagree with them. So in their case it's more of a blowback by the way they treat people.

Now I don't typically see that level of disrespect with people who have a more respectful and level tone such as yourself and many of the others here. Of course there are always exceptions to that.



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19 Mar 2016, 2:11 pm

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I agree with Marshall on the notion that anyone on the receiving end of disrespect, should have the right to reciprocate in a congruent manner.


The people on the receiving end of the most disrespect here, whether directed at them by name or not, are conservatives and religious people; people like, say, Angela, or Raptor. Maybe they'd be nicer if people weren't sh*****g on them all the time...


Nursesngela and Raptor have a particular way of posting that can be incredibly rude or dismissive to people who disagree with them. So in their case it's more of a blowback by the way they treat people.

Now I don't typically see that level of disrespect with people who have a more respectful and level tone such as yourself and many of the others here. Of course there are always exceptions to that.


And I hold no reservation on the notion that this is the case.


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19 Mar 2016, 2:14 pm

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We shouldn't be fighting wars or having a pissing contest with Russia or China or anyone else, we should be battling for global hegemony, we should focus on making our own country great again.

... last time I checked, only one US presidential candidate is currently planning to have a pissing contest with China (a country with a GDP more than 5 times larger than fading Russia, btw): Donald Trump.