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27 Mar 2019, 4:38 am

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For some of us, this was clear a long time ago.

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Pass the Kool-Aid. :lol:


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28 Mar 2019, 7:42 am

It's Watergate X 1000, using the state intelligence apparatus to overturn an election. The biggest political corruption case in the history of the country.

Rand Paul: Former Obama CIA chief promoted ‘dossier,’ demands investigation of Obama team

Sen. Rand Paul escalated his demand for an investigation into former Obama officials who “concocted” the anti-Trump Russia scandal, revealing that former CIA Director John Brennan was the key figure who legitimized the charges and discredited “dossier” against the president.

In an interview, the Kentucky Republican said the Senate Judiciary Committee should immediately ask Brennan about his involvement in the document that helped to kick off the Russia collusion investigation of President Trump.

“I think we need to find the truth,” he told Washington Secrets. He said the goal would be to stop similar faulty investigations into future administrations, “Democratic or Republican.”

In a tweet, he said that he heard from a high level source that Brennan helped to validate the “dossier” in intelligence reports.

“A high-level source tells me it was Brennan who insisted that the unverified and fake Steele dossier be included in the Intelligence Report ... Brennan should be asked to testify under oath in Congress ASAP,” he tweeted.

In an earlier tweet Wednesday, Paul called for wide investigation into former President Barack Obama and his team. “Time for Congress to investigate. What did President Obama know and when? How did this hoax go on for so long unabated?”


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... obama-team


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28 Mar 2019, 1:19 pm

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It's Watergate X 1000, using the state intelligence apparatus to overturn an election. The biggest political corruption case in the history of the country.

Rand Paul: Former Obama CIA chief promoted ‘dossier,’ demands investigation of Obama team

Sen. Rand Paul escalated his demand for an investigation into former Obama officials who “concocted” the anti-Trump Russia scandal, revealing that former CIA Director John Brennan was the key figure who legitimized the charges and discredited “dossier” against the president.

In an interview, the Kentucky Republican said the Senate Judiciary Committee should immediately ask Brennan about his involvement in the document that helped to kick off the Russia collusion investigation of President Trump.

“I think we need to find the truth,” he told Washington Secrets. He said the goal would be to stop similar faulty investigations into future administrations, “Democratic or Republican.”

In a tweet, he said that he heard from a high level source that Brennan helped to validate the “dossier” in intelligence reports.

“A high-level source tells me it was Brennan who insisted that the unverified and fake Steele dossier be included in the Intelligence Report ... Brennan should be asked to testify under oath in Congress ASAP,” he tweeted.

In an earlier tweet Wednesday, Paul called for wide investigation into former President Barack Obama and his team. “Time for Congress to investigate. What did President Obama know and when? How did this hoax go on for so long unabated?”


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... obama-team


As none of us know anything about the Steele dossier mentioned in the Mueller report, there is zero evidence that it's fake. Paul is jumping the gun.
Trump had never been exonerated, meaning there very well may have been collusion.


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28 Mar 2019, 4:37 pm

Lol. Still not hanging up the collusion conspiracy.



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28 Mar 2019, 7:49 pm

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Lol. Still not hanging up the collusion conspiracy.

Would you explain what "Russia, if you're listening, ..." followed a few hours later by the GRU's hacking is, if not collusion? And Flynn offered the end of sanctions not long after. Manafort handed polling data to Kilimnik. Those were not public polls. Those were the detailed polls that tell you which voters to target, the sort of information that you only want your allies to have. According to Barr, that is not relevant, because Kilimnik, despite alleged links to Russian intelligence, is not officially employed by the Russian government, and so Mueller's report doesn't deal with it. Would you have allowed Obama to hide behind that sort of technicality? Then there is the Trump Tower meeting. Don Jr was offered campaign help by the Russian government. He says he didn't get it, but he wanted it. He admitted that. When a criminal tries, but fails, that is not exoneration.

All of this is public information. Do you want to dispute any of it? Or explain what makes it something other than collusion?



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28 Mar 2019, 8:40 pm

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Lol. Still not hanging up the collusion conspiracy.


No, because the Russian octopus has it's tentacles everywhere, including the American government.
Again, Trump was not exonerated.


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29 Mar 2019, 10:44 am

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Lol. Still not hanging up the collusion conspiracy.

Would you explain what "Russia, if you're listening, ..." followed a few hours later by the GRU's hacking is, if not collusion? And Flynn offered the end of sanctions not long after. Manafort handed polling data to Kilimnik. Those were not public polls. Those were the detailed polls that tell you which voters to target, the sort of information that you only want your allies to have. According to Barr, that is not relevant, because Kilimnik, despite alleged links to Russian intelligence, is not officially employed by the Russian government, and so Mueller's report doesn't deal with it. Would you have allowed Obama to hide behind that sort of technicality? Then there is the Trump Tower meeting. Don Jr was offered campaign help by the Russian government. He says he didn't get it, but he wanted it. He admitted that. When a criminal tries, but fails, that is not exoneration.

All of this is public information. Do you want to dispute any of it? Or explain what makes it something other than collusion?


What is the GRU's. There is a lot of evidence that Russia didn't hack Hillary's emails, it was an internal leak, not a hack. I kinda Trust the 2 year FBI investigation rather than liberals trying to keep the conspiracy going. The thing is, people have been fed this crap for so long they are not going to believe anything but collusion, just as you two will not drop it. Dems are trying to put Muller on trial now, so maybe you conspiracy theorists will get the evidence to see that you are wrong, either way, I still doubt either of you or them will ever admit it, like flatearthers, the conspiracy will never die(they have a lot of supposed evidence also, the flatearthers)



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29 Mar 2019, 3:20 pm

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Lol. Still not hanging up the collusion conspiracy.

Would you explain what "Russia, if you're listening, ..." followed a few hours later by the GRU's hacking is, if not collusion? And Flynn offered the end of sanctions not long after. Manafort handed polling data to Kilimnik. Those were not public polls. Those were the detailed polls that tell you which voters to target, the sort of information that you only want your allies to have. According to Barr, that is not relevant, because Kilimnik, despite alleged links to Russian intelligence, is not officially employed by the Russian government, and so Mueller's report doesn't deal with it. Would you have allowed Obama to hide behind that sort of technicality? Then there is the Trump Tower meeting. Don Jr was offered campaign help by the Russian government. He says he didn't get it, but he wanted it. He admitted that. When a criminal tries, but fails, that is not exoneration.

All of this is public information. Do you want to dispute any of it? Or explain what makes it something other than collusion?


What is the GRU's. There is a lot of evidence that Russia didn't hack Hillary's emails, it was an internal leak, not a hack.


By Seth Rich just before he was murdered by Hillary Clinton personally, or perhaps you're suggesting something that might actually sound relatively more credible?


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29 Mar 2019, 3:48 pm

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Lol. Still not hanging up the collusion conspiracy.

Would you explain what "Russia, if you're listening, ..." followed a few hours later by the GRU's hacking is, if not collusion? And Flynn offered the end of sanctions not long after. Manafort handed polling data to Kilimnik. Those were not public polls. Those were the detailed polls that tell you which voters to target, the sort of information that you only want your allies to have. According to Barr, that is not relevant, because Kilimnik, despite alleged links to Russian intelligence, is not officially employed by the Russian government, and so Mueller's report doesn't deal with it. Would you have allowed Obama to hide behind that sort of technicality? Then there is the Trump Tower meeting. Don Jr was offered campaign help by the Russian government. He says he didn't get it, but he wanted it. He admitted that. When a criminal tries, but fails, that is not exoneration.

All of this is public information. Do you want to dispute any of it? Or explain what makes it something other than collusion?


What is the GRU's. There is a lot of evidence that Russia didn't hack Hillary's emails, it was an internal leak, not a hack. I kinda Trust the 2 year FBI investigation rather than liberals trying to keep the conspiracy going. The thing is, people have been fed this crap for so long they are not going to believe anything but collusion, just as you two will not drop it. Dems are trying to put Muller on trial now, so maybe you conspiracy theorists will get the evidence to see that you are wrong, either way, I still doubt either of you or them will ever admit it, like flatearthers, the conspiracy will never die(they have a lot of supposed evidence also, the flatearthers)


In fact the Mueller report says the Russians had hacked the DNC, and then leaked said emails to Wikileaks. Just because conservative propagandists says something's so doesn't mean it is.


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29 Mar 2019, 3:57 pm

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Crimadella wrote:
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Lol. Still not hanging up the collusion conspiracy.

Would you explain what "Russia, if you're listening, ..." followed a few hours later by the GRU's hacking is, if not collusion? And Flynn offered the end of sanctions not long after. Manafort handed polling data to Kilimnik. Those were not public polls. Those were the detailed polls that tell you which voters to target, the sort of information that you only want your allies to have. According to Barr, that is not relevant, because Kilimnik, despite alleged links to Russian intelligence, is not officially employed by the Russian government, and so Mueller's report doesn't deal with it. Would you have allowed Obama to hide behind that sort of technicality? Then there is the Trump Tower meeting. Don Jr was offered campaign help by the Russian government. He says he didn't get it, but he wanted it. He admitted that. When a criminal tries, but fails, that is not exoneration.

All of this is public information. Do you want to dispute any of it? Or explain what makes it something other than collusion?


What is the GRU's. There is a lot of evidence that Russia didn't hack Hillary's emails, it was an internal leak, not a hack.


By Seth Rich just before he was murdered by Hillary Clinton personally, or perhaps you're suggesting something that might actually sound relatively more credible?


:lol: Expect credulousness, but not credibility, from Trump supporters and you'll never be surprised.



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29 Mar 2019, 5:13 pm

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What is the GRU's.

You missed quite a lot, so if you want to understand my reasoning, let's go through it step by step. I think we can even start with two.

Do you accept that this happened? Yes or no will do.


The GRU is the Russian foreign military intelligence agency. Here is some information, including a list of some of its recent activities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRU_(G.U.) Is it clear what the GRU is?



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29 Mar 2019, 7:58 pm

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(Sigh) Anything to deflect attention away from the Trump campaign's Russia contacts.


That would be a good argument if Russiagate were actually true.


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29 Mar 2019, 8:00 pm

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Crimadella wrote:
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Lol. Still not hanging up the collusion conspiracy.

Would you explain what "Russia, if you're listening, ..." followed a few hours later by the GRU's hacking is, if not collusion? And Flynn offered the end of sanctions not long after. Manafort handed polling data to Kilimnik. Those were not public polls. Those were the detailed polls that tell you which voters to target, the sort of information that you only want your allies to have. According to Barr, that is not relevant, because Kilimnik, despite alleged links to Russian intelligence, is not officially employed by the Russian government, and so Mueller's report doesn't deal with it. Would you have allowed Obama to hide behind that sort of technicality? Then there is the Trump Tower meeting. Don Jr was offered campaign help by the Russian government. He says he didn't get it, but he wanted it. He admitted that. When a criminal tries, but fails, that is not exoneration.

All of this is public information. Do you want to dispute any of it? Or explain what makes it something other than collusion?


What is the GRU's. There is a lot of evidence that Russia didn't hack Hillary's emails, it was an internal leak, not a hack. I kinda Trust the 2 year FBI investigation rather than liberals trying to keep the conspiracy going. The thing is, people have been fed this crap for so long they are not going to believe anything but collusion, just as you two will not drop it. Dems are trying to put Muller on trial now, so maybe you conspiracy theorists will get the evidence to see that you are wrong, either way, I still doubt either of you or them will ever admit it, like flatearthers, the conspiracy will never die(they have a lot of supposed evidence also, the flatearthers)


In fact the Mueller report says the Russians had hacked the DNC, and then leaked said emails to Wikileaks. Just because conservative propagandists says something's so doesn't mean it is.


You sound pretty butthurt over the fact that people knew the truth about Hillary Clinton and that caused her to lose the election. Do you value the truth? Apparently not.


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29 Mar 2019, 8:20 pm

Hurray! Trump is making Amuuurica suck again! :D



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29 Mar 2019, 8:23 pm

I value the truth that Amuuurica sucks and we got a greedy narcissist for a president with greedy narcissistic followers who love him and a media that lies to us about everything.

I can't wait for this great nation to come crashing down like the Roman Empire. :salut:



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I value the truth that Amuuurica sucks and we got a greedy narcissist for a president with greedy narcissistic followers who love him and a media that lies to us about everything.

I can't wait for this great nation to come crashing down like the Roman Empire. :salut:


Would you rather have a right wing corporatist shill who is funded by Goldman Sachs and Bank of America and who literally admitted she planned to go to war with Iran and kill thousands of innocent people for the lulz?


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