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13 Mar 2018, 4:37 am

Very few people think the bible is morally perfect in the UK. Even the established church ignores it they allow their gay priests to have boyfriends. Christianity has essentially been defeated in Britain.



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13 Mar 2018, 4:38 am

Yet your head of state is also the head of the state church? Even the Americans wouldn't go that far.

Are there any JWs in the UK? Believe me those guys really the Bible is perfect.


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13 Mar 2018, 4:42 am

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Yet your head of state is also the head of the state church? Even the Americans wouldn't go that far.

Are there any JWs in the UK? Believe me those guys really the Bible is perfect.


A few of them but they don't really cause problems there is even a Mormon church in Liverpool too.



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13 Mar 2018, 4:50 am

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Yeah. The population of the UK is at least 95% Muslim now and all of them are on benefits /sarcasm


Its actually about 5% which is shockingly high and will continue to grow as they have more children and we continue to allow more in.


Why is that shocking? Also why focus on the % of just 1 religion in the UK as if it is negative?


Because we have 5% of the population who believes that the Prophet Muhammad was morally perfect. Demography effects democracy and if you look at countries that have high amounts of Muslims they are not good places.


The Muslims I have known don't think PM was morally perfect. Just like other religions there are those that follow is strictly and those that follow it in a more casual manner.



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13 Mar 2018, 4:50 am

So should you deport the Muslims who commit crimes or just all of them?


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13 Mar 2018, 4:55 am

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Yeah. The population of the UK is at least 95% Muslim now and all of them are on benefits /sarcasm


Its actually about 5% which is shockingly high and will continue to grow as they have more children and we continue to allow more in.


Why is that shocking? Also why focus on the % of just 1 religion in the UK as if it is negative?


Because we have 5% of the population who believes that the Prophet Muhammad was morally perfect. Demography effects democracy and if you look at countries that have high amounts of Muslims they are not good places.


The Muslims I have known don't think PM was morally perfect. Just like other religions there are those that follow is strictly and those that follow it in a more casual manner.


Are they like those Vegan who eat meat?



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13 Mar 2018, 4:57 am

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So should you deport the Muslims who commit crimes or just all of them?


I would stop Muslim immigration completely, deport the criminal element and stop bending over backwards to them.



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13 Mar 2018, 5:00 am

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So should you deport the Muslims who commit crimes or just all of them?


I would stop Muslim immigration completely, deport the criminal element and stop bending over backwards to them.

What if that stopped the immigration of apostates who are at risk of getting killed by Muslims for being apostates?

Since they're at risk of getting killed they can't publically say they're not Muslim until after the aeroplane lands so they'd be covered by the blanket Muslim ban.


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13 Mar 2018, 5:03 am

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So should you deport the Muslims who commit crimes or just all of them?


I would stop Muslim immigration completely, deport the criminal element and stop bending over backwards to them.

What if that stopped the immigration of apostates who are at risk of getting killed by Muslims for being apostates?

Since they're at risk of getting killed they can't publically say they're not Muslim until after the aeroplane lands so they'd be covered by the blanket Muslim ban.


Non Muslims would be allowed but the priority of a nation is not worry about foreigner first.



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13 Mar 2018, 5:16 am

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Right wing politics is gaining popularity in part due to the open border policy allowing mass refugee immigration...
Wasn't this the main reason for Brexit


No. It was Germany that took in many refugees, I believe the UK didn't even take in the agreed minimum number.

And yet the poll result I posted earlier did indicate immigration was a major consideration... :wink:


and it absolutely was. There were a vast amount of reasons why people voted each way though. I feel part of the continued problem since the vote has been politicians announcing that the vote went the way it did because of X (Vince Cable being the latest to do that just this week) and therefore still not appreciating that people are complex, and different, and have many views on things and not just one.


I am not taking offence but I would like to mention I'm old enough to be your father and have done a very indepth study of human psychology...
I'm sure you didn't mean to be condescending when you were teaching your "grandfather" how to suck eggs...<chuckle>



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13 Mar 2018, 5:16 am

Daniel89 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
So should you deport the Muslims who commit crimes or just all of them?


I would stop Muslim immigration completely, deport the criminal element and stop bending over backwards to them.

What if that stopped the immigration of apostates who are at risk of getting killed by Muslims for being apostates?

Since they're at risk of getting killed they can't publically say they're not Muslim until after the aeroplane lands so they'd be covered by the blanket Muslim ban.


Non Muslims would be allowed but the priority of a nation is not worry about foreigner first.

Ok, what about Muslims who are fleeing from being honour killed?


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13 Mar 2018, 5:16 am

Daniel89 wrote:
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Daniel89 wrote:
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Daniel89 wrote:
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Yeah. The population of the UK is at least 95% Muslim now and all of them are on benefits /sarcasm


Its actually about 5% which is shockingly high and will continue to grow as they have more children and we continue to allow more in.


Why is that shocking? Also why focus on the % of just 1 religion in the UK as if it is negative?


Because we have 5% of the population who believes that the Prophet Muhammad was morally perfect. Demography effects democracy and if you look at countries that have high amounts of Muslims they are not good places.


The Muslims I have known don't think PM was morally perfect. Just like other religions there are those that follow is strictly and those that follow it in a more casual manner.


Are they like those Vegan who eat meat?


No its not, they are Muslims who's religion is followed fairly casually like Christians who's religion is followed in a fairly casually.

If you were to read the Daily Mail you would think all Muslims are hardliners but reality is very different. We had a work event on Friday in London where we finished in a pub and had a free bar for a couple of hours. The 2 Muslims in the team were both drinking beer. The Mail would make you believe this simply does not exist.



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13 Mar 2018, 5:21 am

Biscuitman wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Yeah. The population of the UK is at least 95% Muslim now and all of them are on benefits /sarcasm


Its actually about 5% which is shockingly high and will continue to grow as they have more children and we continue to allow more in.


Why is that shocking? Also why focus on the % of just 1 religion in the UK as if it is negative?


Because we have 5% of the population who believes that the Prophet Muhammad was morally perfect. Demography effects democracy and if you look at countries that have high amounts of Muslims they are not good places.


The Muslims I have known don't think PM was morally perfect. Just like other religions there are those that follow is strictly and those that follow it in a more casual manner.


Are they like those Vegan who eat meat?


No its not, they are Muslims who's religion is followed fairly casually like Christians who's religion is followed in a fairly casually.

If you were to read the Daily Mail you would think all Muslims are hardliners but reality is very different. We had a work event on Friday in London where we finished in a pub and had a free bar for a couple of hours. The 2 Muslims in the team were both drinking beer. The Mail would make you believe this simply does not exist.


You cannot follow Christianity or Islam fairly casually you either believe or you don't. Christians have a loophole in that they believe the Bible was inspired by God. Muslims do not Muslims believe the Quran is the perfect word of God if they do not believe this then they are not Muslim.



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13 Mar 2018, 5:22 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
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So should you deport the Muslims who commit crimes or just all of them?


I would stop Muslim immigration completely, deport the criminal element and stop bending over backwards to them.

What if that stopped the immigration of apostates who are at risk of getting killed by Muslims for being apostates?

Since they're at risk of getting killed they can't publically say they're not Muslim until after the aeroplane lands so they'd be covered by the blanket Muslim ban.


Non Muslims would be allowed but the priority of a nation is not worry about foreigner first.

Ok, what about Muslims who are fleeing from being honour killed?


What about the millions of people who are starving to death should we let them in too?



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13 Mar 2018, 5:24 am

Daniel89 wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
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Daniel89 wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Yeah. The population of the UK is at least 95% Muslim now and all of them are on benefits /sarcasm


Its actually about 5% which is shockingly high and will continue to grow as they have more children and we continue to allow more in.


Why is that shocking? Also why focus on the % of just 1 religion in the UK as if it is negative?


Because we have 5% of the population who believes that the Prophet Muhammad was morally perfect. Demography effects democracy and if you look at countries that have high amounts of Muslims they are not good places.


The Muslims I have known don't think PM was morally perfect. Just like other religions there are those that follow is strictly and those that follow it in a more casual manner.


Are they like those Vegan who eat meat?


No its not, they are Muslims who's religion is followed fairly casually like Christians who's religion is followed in a fairly casually.

If you were to read the Daily Mail you would think all Muslims are hardliners but reality is very different. We had a work event on Friday in London where we finished in a pub and had a free bar for a couple of hours. The 2 Muslims in the team were both drinking beer. The Mail would make you believe this simply does not exist.


You cannot follow Christianity or Islam fairly casually you either believe or you don't. Christians have a loophole in that they believe the Bible was inspired by God. Muslims do not Muslims believe the Quran is the perfect word of God if they do not believe this then they are not Muslim.


It's not for you to say whether someone is Christian or Muslim, it is for the individual alone and no one else.

And the idea religions cannot be followed in a casual manner is just tin foil hat territory.

You sound like you have been well and truly Faraged.



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13 Mar 2018, 5:27 am

Biscuitman wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Biscuitman wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Yeah. The population of the UK is at least 95% Muslim now and all of them are on benefits /sarcasm


Its actually about 5% which is shockingly high and will continue to grow as they have more children and we continue to allow more in.


Why is that shocking? Also why focus on the % of just 1 religion in the UK as if it is negative?


Because we have 5% of the population who believes that the Prophet Muhammad was morally perfect. Demography effects democracy and if you look at countries that have high amounts of Muslims they are not good places.


The Muslims I have known don't think PM was morally perfect. Just like other religions there are those that follow is strictly and those that follow it in a more casual manner.


Are they like those Vegan who eat meat?


No its not, they are Muslims who's religion is followed fairly casually like Christians who's religion is followed in a fairly casually.

If you were to read the Daily Mail you would think all Muslims are hardliners but reality is very different. We had a work event on Friday in London where we finished in a pub and had a free bar for a couple of hours. The 2 Muslims in the team were both drinking beer. The Mail would make you believe this simply does not exist.


You cannot follow Christianity or Islam fairly casually you either believe or you don't. Christians have a loophole in that they believe the Bible was inspired by God. Muslims do not Muslims believe the Quran is the perfect word of God if they do not believe this then they are not Muslim.


It's not for you to say whether someone is Christian or Muslim, it is for the individual alone and no one else.

And the idea religions cannot be followed in a casual manner is just tin foil hat territory.

You sound like you have been well and truly Faraged.


Yes I could say I was a Christian but I don't believe in God and Jesus was actually a magic donkey sent here by aliens to control us but that is not Christianity.